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JMa 03-23-2007 04:53 PM

10/20 PLO 200bb bottom set..
 
this is like my third orbit on the table..i doubled up on the third hand at the table against another player. i have never seen villain before. im new to PLO, maybe this is super basic...but for me it isnt. how is my line? also, if river blanks, do i call a PSB and if he checks, do i valuebet?


$ 2,000 USD PL Omaha - Friday, March 23, 16:26:30 ET 2007
Table Table 127506 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 6: Bustme ( $ 4,910.71 USD )
Seat 10: weeman121 ( $ 5,946.98 USD )
Seat 3: Hero ( $ 3,795 USD )
Bustme posts small blind [$ 10 USD].
weeman121 posts big blind [$ 20 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 8s 7h 5c 7d ]
Hero raises [$ 70 USD]
Bustme calls [$ 60 USD]
weeman121 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7c, Qh, Kh ]
Bustme bets [$ 159 USD]
Hero calls [$ 159 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5d ]
Bustme bets [$ 477 USD]
Hero calls [$ 477 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ Td ]
Bustme checks
Hero checks

couldnt find a hand converter, sry

FireStorm 03-23-2007 08:59 PM

Re: 10/20 PLO 200bb bottom set..
 
Seems fine to me, I'm 1000000% in agreement with the river check behind. Flop smooth call to play a small one seems good.

pete fabrizio 03-23-2007 11:37 PM

Re: 10/20 PLO 200bb bottom set..
 
bet river if you like money.

wazz 03-24-2007 02:10 AM

Re: 10/20 PLO 200bb bottom set..
 
Yah but keep it small enough that he can call with weaker hands. ~ $450 should do. More and you risk folding out all weaker hands which entirely defeats the purpose (other than avoiding a showdown) of value-betting.

pete fabrizio 03-24-2007 02:51 AM

Re: 10/20 PLO 200bb bottom set..
 
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Yah but keep it small enough that he can call with weaker hands. ~ $450 should do. More and you risk folding out all weaker hands which entirely defeats the purpose (other than avoiding a showdown) of value-betting.

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I usually bet pot. I basically believe if he's going to look me up, he's going to look me up. Bonus if he folds a better hand.

snagglepuss 03-24-2007 04:37 AM

Re: 10/20 PLO 200bb bottom set..
 
id mebbe bluff river. whats he think u are calling his turn pot w? Ahxxxh w/ no straight draw?

luckyjimm 03-24-2007 07:10 AM

Re: 10/20 PLO 200bb bottom set..
 
On the flop you're behind to a flush and straight combo draw, but with one opponent you're unlucky if he has both. I'm repotting flop, potting turn.

mindcirkus 03-24-2007 08:45 AM

Re: 10/20 PLO 200bb bottom set..
 
You've gotta pot that flop, there are so few hands that are ahead of you that it is very unlikely your opponent is ahead of you in a heads up pot in a 3 handed game. By not potting the flop/turn you not only give him a chance to draw cheaply, but you miss your best chance to get a lot of money in the pot. If your opponent has two pair or something, and a flush or straight card comes on turn/river, he's not going to be willing to put much if any more money in the pot at that point.

Also there is nothing wrong with value betting the river, because if you get re-raised you can always fold, but chances are better that you are ahead and will get a call with a value bet.

grizy 03-24-2007 11:38 AM

Re: 10/20 PLO 200bb bottom set..
 
I probably pot the turn, and pot the river, and I wouldnt' consider the river bet a bluff.

This hand is more about your hand is most probably good, and there is a big range of hands that can call you, most of which are behind 77 (with KQ consisting a big chunk of that range)

If you can't find it in your heart to agree with the last statement, you have no business raising with 8775 preflop.


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