Hero says \"LOL Donkaments\" and then...
 

$33 Turbo on Stars. I have no idea

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG (t3090)
UTG+1 (t1810)
MP1 (t1695)
Hero (t2450)
MP3 (t1520)
CO (t1115)
Button (t6070)
SB (t2600)
BB (t2830)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif.
3 folds</font>, Hero raises to t450</font>, 4 folds</font>, BB calls t300.

Flop: (t975) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]BB bets t2380 (All-In)</font>, Hero ???

Re: Hero says \"LOL Donkaments\" and then...
 

call

Re: Hero says \"LOL Donkaments\" and then...
 

call

Re: Hero says \"LOL Donkaments\" and then...
 

If this is a definite call, I guess I should start just straight shoving this flop with KJ and AJ?

Re: Hero says \"LOL Donkaments\" and then...
 

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If this is a definite call, I guess I should start just straight shoving this flop with KJ and AJ?

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well no, because if you see people doing that, then you note it on them. Anyway, lots of randoms might fold here, and what happens when hero has AK/AQ and can't call you? Obviously the better way to play TP is to checkraise allin, and you'll win money off hands that CANT call the push, but probably will cbet

Thats the main reason we call here, since it doesn't make sense for TP to push since checkraising &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; open pushing as no better hand folds to a push, but worse hands will and in poker now pretty much everyone will cbet.

Re: Hero says \"LOL Donkaments\" and then...
 

I've seen this done enough with JQ KJ, but I call because I think it's done enough with weaker hands( Underpairs) to make it profitable.

You shoulda said LoL 'Documents' instead of donkaments, then he might have been too confused to donk bet into you.

Re: Hero says \"LOL Donkaments\" and then...
 

I'll occasionally throw in a something along the lines of "lol donkaments" when I have a huge hand here.

Similar to when I know i'm leaving a ring table for the nigth, I mention "i'm all in next hand." If I get dealt terrible hands, I fold and am gone. Dealt KK. All in, true to my word.

In short, I'd be waay happier calling this had he said nothign.

Re: Hero says \"LOL Donkaments\" and then...
 

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I'll occasionally throw in a something along the lines of "lol donkaments" when I have a huge hand here.

Similar to when I know i'm leaving a ring table for the nigth, I mention "i'm all in next hand." If I get dealt terrible hands, I fold and am gone. Dealt KK. All in, true to my word.

In short, I'd be waay happier calling this had he said nothign.

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???!?!

Re: Hero says \"LOL Donkaments\" and then...
 

1) Turbo call
2) get shown something like 44 or 78s
3) Profit

Put yourself in BB's shoes....if you smacked that flop, wouldn't you want the PFR to put in a bet before you jam?

Also,

HE'S PUTTING YOU ON AK /bbv

Re: Hero says \"LOL Donkaments\" and then...
 

Why would the BB push into the PFR?

1) He's either flopped two pair (but on a J52 board? he must really defend his BB loosely) or a set (always possible but you can't live in fear of the set) or slow played a big pair preflop and thinks you'll call a donky overbet. Sure, maybe, but on this board it's a pretty well disguised monster and almost all poker players will CR or check call here because they want you to put your chips in the call.

2) He's flopped something weak but somewhat pretty and doesn't want to give you the chance to scare him off. You're ahead unless his weak hand is JX. Again, Jx is probably strong enough that he'll make a bet he thinks you'll call.

3) He's flopped nothing, is fairly sure you haven't either but doesn't want to bet into you and get raised so is trying to force you out. You're way ahead, call.

Sometimes it's a good player trying to look donky (and most good players would probably prefer to CR the c-bet you are practically obliged to make here), usually it's a donk trying to look scary.

Call.