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m_reed05 03-22-2007 07:55 PM

45s flush and oesd draw
 
Here's the hand in question.

Full Tilt Poker
$2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
CO: $209.80
Hero (BTN): $561.10
SB: $380.4
BB: $715.8
UTG: $117.90
MP: $400

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($6, 6 players)
UTG folds, MP folds, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, SB folds, BB calls $4

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($18, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $22</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $60</font>, BB calls $38

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] ($138, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero ??




My real question is on the turn here.

I know the min raise on the button looks weird, but it's something I don't mind doing from the button with big hands and hands such as this, knowing I will have position.

What do you guys do on the turn here? After putting in a reraise on the flop with a flush draw and oesd, the turn misses, do you take the free card or push hard.

I wish I had reraised more on the flop, but live and learn.

Big_Jim 03-22-2007 08:01 PM

Re: 45s flush and oesd draw
 
Hate your bet sizing throughout.

Hoopster81 03-22-2007 08:02 PM

Re: 45s flush and oesd draw
 
The PF min-raise is so gross

If you make a normal raise to $14 PF, the pot on the flop is ~$30 and if you c-bet ~$25:

If me makes a real c/r over that, I would just shove it in

If he makes a mini c/r, I would just call I guess - as a shove would be an overbet - and keep playing as long as he lay me odds to hit

bdams19 03-22-2007 08:04 PM

Re: 45s flush and oesd draw
 
dont bet like a girl

Hoopster81 03-22-2007 08:08 PM

Re: 45s flush and oesd draw
 
As played, I definately check behind turn

No reason to raise his c/r on the flop

If you had just called it and he checked the turn, a turn bet can be profitable but usually check it behind and look to hit

DJ Sensei 03-22-2007 09:10 PM

Re: 45s flush and oesd draw
 
dont 3-bet the flop in position unless you can shove it.

obv check behind turn.

m_reed05 03-22-2007 09:17 PM

Re: 45s flush and oesd draw
 
I wouldn't say this hand is typical of my play. Most times I fold this on the button, and usually if I decide to play I'll just do the standard 3-3.5x raise. However lately I've been mixing it up a little (Negreanu style) and I think the min-raise on the button forces them to play some hands they don't want to, out of position. But is this style totally unprofitable in a cash game setting?

m_reed05 03-22-2007 09:19 PM

Re: 45s flush and oesd draw
 
Also, here's the conclusion of the hand:


<font color="black">Turn:</font> 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] ($138, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

<font color="black">River:</font> 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] ($138, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

<font color="black">Results:</font>
Hero had 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (King Jack high)
BB had Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and won $135
Final Pot: $135.00 ($3.00 rake)

catcher193 03-22-2007 09:24 PM

Re: 45s flush and oesd draw
 
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The PF min-raise is so gross

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TresDeuce 03-22-2007 09:53 PM

Re: 45s flush and oesd draw
 
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