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HotdogPoker 03-14-2007 09:27 PM

Finding folds
 
Lately I have been making like Daniel Negreanu on HSP (at least the season 2 version) and paying off everyone and everything. Can I find some folds here? If yes, what should be running through my head while I'm thinking? Is it a matter of running through hands that beat me and the likelihood of each hand? When I put the hand back together in my head, I can always think of a whole bunch that beat me and a bunch that don't, so I call.

Hand #1, villain is 66/4/1.4

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($25)
MP ($23.25)
CO ($16.05)
Button ($32.20)
SB ($12.30)
Hero ($40.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.75</font>, CO calls $0.75, SB folds.

Turn: ($2.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $4</font>, Hero calls $2.

River: ($10.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $8.25</font>, Hero ???

Final Pot: $18.50

For hands #2 and 3, villain is 71/22/1

Hand #2:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($4.65)
MP ($25.35)
CO ($14.95)
Hero ($44)
SB ($22)
BB ($60.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.25</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $4.5</font>, Hero calls $2.25.

Turn: ($12) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($12) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $16</font>, Hero ???

Final Pot: $44

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($10.70)
UTG ($25)
MP ($12.60)
Hero ($25)
Button ($16.35)
SB ($80.95)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($1) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($1) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $4</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero ???

Final Pot: $9

ADK 03-14-2007 09:36 PM

Re: Finding folds
 
hand 1: i push his turn min-re-raise.
hand 2: reads on BB? I pot turn.. and most likely always push without reads.
hand 3: i like to raise this up on co, but as played, i'll bet 3/4 on flop, check turn if called, and i'll call the raise on river. its possible SB could have hit it hard and tried to check raise each street.... really tough spot here...but i think i'd cross my fingers and call here.

Angrymoog 03-14-2007 09:48 PM

Re: Finding folds
 
Hand 1: you Could push for the rest. Youre definitely not going to be able to fold the river.
Hand 2: I like how you played it. You could bet again on the turn, but as played with his huge river bet, you fold because youre clearly beat.
Hand 3: I would raise preflop. As played, call his river raise and expect to see a king most often.

wall_st 03-14-2007 09:58 PM

Re: Finding folds
 
hand 1: get it all in somewhere, turn is best but as played check raising the river is not horrible
hand 2: this overbet weirds me out as does everything about this hand
hand 3: i fold there are 4 people in an unraised point, my feeling is at best you are splitting here. You should raise this pf btw.


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