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jtflush29 03-13-2007 02:40 PM

DOJ having issues of there own
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070313/...ss_prosecutors

[i]Cliff's notes: The Bush Administration fired 8 U.S. Attorney's for allegedly political reasons.

damaniac 03-13-2007 02:41 PM

Re: DOJ having issues of there own
 
I think this belongs in politics (and though i don't read the political forum, I'm sure there's a thread on this already).

Felix_Nietzsche 03-14-2007 01:20 AM

This is a Phony Issue
 
Theses DOJ DAs work for the Attorney General.
The Attourney General works for the President.
These DAs are political appointments and the president can fire them ANYTIME he wants to. When the Clinton took the Whitehouse they fired ALL the DOJ DAs. This has been going on for the the ENTIRE existence of this country.... So why are the Dems bitching about this? Or more importantly, why did the Attorney General apologize for not notifying congress? You got me.

I have maintain as a politician, Bush is an idiot.
As part of his "new tone" in Washington, Bush decided to keep Clintons DAs on the DOJ that wanted to remain on the job. This was STUUUU-PID. Should Bush be surprised that these partisan Dem DAs should go soft on prosecuting Dem Party operatives that were involved in vote fraud? I voted for Bush twice because Gore/Kerry were bigger morons than Bush. I can't wait till Bush is gone....

Felix_Nietzsche 03-14-2007 12:44 PM

Bricks and Glass Houses....
 
Clinton fired 96 at one time and the media yawned. Bush fires 8 and people are complaining? You foaming-at-the-mouth Dems might want to keep you glass houses in order before throwing bricks...

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editor...l?id=110009784
Clintons fired 93 at once. Now this was unprecedented.
The standard practice is to gradually replace the DOJ attorneys to insure a smooth transition when a new administration takes over. Keeping many Clinton holdovers was part of Bush's setting a "new tone" in Washington. One of Bush's dumb-ass blunders. These partisan Clinton DAs repaid Bush by going soft on Democratic operatives who were caught in vote fraud..... Forget their oaths of office. They can't be expected to prosecute Dems who commit vote fraud...

iron81 03-14-2007 12:51 PM

Re: Bricks and Glass Houses....
 
I'm with Felix, this seems like much ado about nothing. US Attorney's serve at the pleasure of the President.

That said, if he really is firing people because they pursue Republicans too aggressively, Bush has a lot to answer for.

Poofler 03-14-2007 12:53 PM

Re: Bricks and Glass Houses....
 
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Emperor 03-14-2007 12:55 PM

Re: Bricks and Glass Houses....
 
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I'm with Felix, this seems like much ado about nothing. US Attorney's serve at the pleasure of the President.

That said, if he really is firing people because they pursue Republicans too aggressively, Bush has a lot to answer for.

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They got fired for not investigating democrats suspected of voting fraud.

Clinton fired all 96 to coverup the one investigating Whitewater and Vince Foster's murder.

Felix_Nietzsche 03-14-2007 05:08 PM

Points of Interests About This Phony Scandal
 
Points of Interests About This Phony Scandal
1. Bush is making Gonzo go to the hill with hat-in-hand to apologize for not informing Congress. If Gonzo had a pair--of-balls he would tell Bush to FO (and this does not stand for forward observer).

2. Talk Radio is the ONLY media that I have seen that educated the public that there was NOTHING to these firings. Yet the "drive-by" media is fanning the flames acting like this is a scandal.

3. Charles Schumer had been beating the drums and his willing accomplices in the mainstream media have been plasterering his face all over the news. To me this illustrates the mainstream media's bianess. The media knows that cleaning house is standard-operating-procedures. Yet they (for the most part) choose not to educate their viewers and instead act as a bullhorn for nitwits like Chuck Schumer....

4. Bush's New Tone was a collossal failure!
You can not make friends with the partisan Dem leadership. Bush was able to accomplish this as state govenor because Bob Bullock (Dem Lt Gov Texas) was a conservative Democrat so he and Bush were not far off in their views. The next Repub president needs to clean house at the CIA, FBI, DOJ, etc.....

zyqwert 03-14-2007 08:24 PM

Re: Bricks and Glass Houses....
 
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Keeping many Clinton holdovers was part of Bush's setting a "new tone" in Washington. These partisan Clinton DAs repaid Bush by going soft on Democratic operatives who were caught in vote fraud.....

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Each of these fired US Attorneys was appointed by Bush in 2001, except for Kevin Ryan -- he was appointed in 2002. Some had been assitant US Attorneys before their appointment, but in each case they got that job during a republican administration.

The links from the DOJ may not be around for long since these people have been fired, but each shows when the fired US Attorney was appointed.

They could not have been fired for being Clinton apointees who wanted to undermine Bush for partisan reasons.

<ul type="square"> [*]Ms. Margaret M. Chiara[*]John McKay[*]Paul K. Charlton[*]David Igleslias[*]Carol Lam[*]Daniel Bogden[*]Kevin Ryan[*]Bud Cummins[/list]

niss 03-14-2007 08:34 PM

Re: Bricks and Glass Houses....
 
One cannot understate the damage that firing US Attorneys for political reasons does to the rule of law in this country. I am dismayed that some intelligent people who posted above do not see this. This is one of the worst things that this administration has ever done, and there's a lot of competition for that title.

Editing to add that I am heartened by the fact that senators on both sides of the aisle are lining up not simply to denounce this but to demand Mr. Gonzalez's resignation.


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