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Chipchucker5 03-12-2007 09:07 PM

$60; A couple bubble hands as 2nd big stack
 
PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t740)
Button (t7285)
SB (t1430)
Hero (t4045)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Button raises to t1200</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t4020 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>


Very next hand...

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t6060)
Button (t1205)
Hero (t5520)
BB (t715)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="red">CO raises to t1200</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, CO said, "calling if you push this time chip," "don't particuarlly want to flip for these stacks, but go ahead if you wanna"

First of all, do you think the reshove with the AK was ok? And what do you do with the 99 here? Do you generally believe people when they make comments like this, or do you think they're typically just trying to talk you out of making a move?

Kevin8423 03-12-2007 09:27 PM

Re: $60; A couple bubble hands as 2nd big stack
 
I would fold both of these spots actually, the short stacks are at like 2BB. No reason to flip, hand 1 not being as bad as hand 2 where he even says he will call.

Edit: If instead you were the larger of the two stacks both would be pushes. I don't think bullying as the 2nd largest stack is correct though.

mmorpg 03-13-2007 05:39 AM

Re: $60; A couple bubble hands as 2nd big stack
 
I would be a chicken [censored] and fold both of them.
Turn chat off so you dont have to worry about talking fish. Distracts you from fishing.

FeNeF 03-13-2007 05:41 AM

Re: $60; A couple bubble hands as 2nd big stack
 
#1 is only good if you think you have a lot of fold equity. #2 I'm always folding, regardless of chat.

It's pretty sick how tight oyu have to be in spots like this.

Seeeno 03-13-2007 06:53 AM

Re: $60; A couple bubble hands as 2nd big stack
 
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It's pretty sick how tight oyu have to be in spots like this.

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#2

Kinbor 03-13-2007 07:00 AM

Re: $60; A couple bubble hands as 2nd big stack
 
do you fold or flat call that raise most of the time? if he's very agg. in position that's probably a fold from me (around 80/20, but i am sticky when it comes to actual situation some times), alas against a mod. agressive player i guess you could flatcall and lead out on a good flop, folding to a reshove (you still have around 4k left if you do that and are in no danger at all to bust and you're most likely gonna be HU with him anyway so you need to start chipping away). is this such a bad line?

Dirk72 03-13-2007 07:41 AM

Re: $60; A couple bubble hands as 2nd big stack
 
A fold in both cases.

darom03 03-13-2007 08:41 AM

Re: $60; A couple bubble hands as 2nd big stack
 
#2 could also be a call. You have a very short stack in BB with only 300 behind after laying the BB. Cooporate to get him out.

darinvg 03-13-2007 10:02 AM

Re: $60; A couple bubble hands as 2nd big stack
 
I don't think I push either one of these. You're playing with fire. Who's the villian?

Chipchucker5 03-13-2007 12:39 PM

Re: $60; A couple bubble hands as 2nd big stack
 
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I don't think I push either one of these. You're playing with fire. Who's the villian?

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Stelvask...I don't remember ever playing with him before, but he seemed pretty solid.


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