Two pair against possible flush
 

Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.25/$0.5
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8SB, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, 2 folds.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 9BB

Is my turn bet good? How would you, without stats on your opponent, respond to a raise? How about the river check-call?

Re: Two pair against possible flush
 

I think if you're planning on spending a bet on the river you're better off being the one who puts it in. When you check you allow him to pretty much only put money in when he's winning.

Re: Two pair against possible flush
 

bet/fold river.

Re: Two pair against possible flush
 

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bet/fold river.

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I concurr.

Re: Two pair against possible flush
 

not to sure about this call. You are getting 8 - 1 on the river, which is good. This means ur opp needs to be bluffing only 12.5% of the time for ur call to break even. because all you can beat is a bluff. You bet on the turn i take it to find out if ur opp had a flush, you got called. usually in this spot i find myself beat. If this guy is a straight forward player he has you beat. But who knows, crazy s%*t goes on in these lower limits. It all comes down to can you win one time out of eight on the river. ur getting good odds, i think i would lead more towards chucking it away.

Re: Two pair against possible flush
 

Why is a bet/fold on the river better then a check/call? I agree we're probably beat here most of the time, but it's a big pot, our hand does have showdown value and either way were putting in one bet. Am I way off here?


-BrooklynMark

Re: Two pair against possible flush
 

It's because you give Villain the chance to bet his good hands and check his bad hands. Wich put you in the spot of only getting value when he bluffs.

Re: Two pair against possible flush
 

Would he have called on the turn if he was drawing towards a straight, instead of folding it? All he has to go on is your betting, which shows a strong hand. Wouldn't he fold out of this if he didn't have the flush?

Re: Two pair against possible flush
 

I think I agree I had to bet/fold the river. Thx for the opinions/explanation.
Anyone wants to guess Villain's hand?
(The answer will be surprising [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img])

Re: Two pair against possible flush
 

At least one diamond, and it better be the J?