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StregaChess 03-10-2007 04:26 PM

($16) JJs & TTs Poorly Played Pairs!?
 
Would appreciate feedback on these and also any suggestions or tips for dealing with pairs 99 to JJ

1)
PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t540)
UTG+1 (t1970)
Hero (t1505)
CO (t2395)
Button (t2220)
SB (t3895)
BB (t975)

Preflop: Hero is in MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Button raises to t1000</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds,</font> Hero?


2)
PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t7205)
Button (t3345)
SB (t1350)
Hero (t1600)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="red">CO raises to t600</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t1600 (All-in)</font>, Bad play?

DeuceSeven 03-10-2007 04:32 PM

Re: ($16) JJs & TTs Poorly Played Pairs!?
 
1. I like the pf raise, I usually fold to the 3bet but that's read dependent. I think some people would shove pf and I couldn't criticize that.

2. Standard.

FeNeF 03-10-2007 04:49 PM

Re: ($16) JJs & TTs Poorly Played Pairs!?
 
Reads would be really nice. Without them I'm stacking off with both of them, although I'm not pleased about either.

tsearcher 03-10-2007 04:52 PM

Re: ($16) JJs & TTs Poorly Played Pairs!?
 
1) Push preflop, but it's close. As played fold to Button's reraise.

2.) Villain's range should be pretty wide here so your push looks good.

FeNeF 03-10-2007 04:54 PM

Re: ($16) JJs & TTs Poorly Played Pairs!?
 
Blech. Do we really have to openshove JJ there?

wiggs73 03-10-2007 04:57 PM

Re: ($16) JJs & TTs Poorly Played Pairs!?
 
I'd get in on hand 1. Hand 2 looks good.

tsearcher 03-10-2007 04:59 PM

Re: ($16) JJs & TTs Poorly Played Pairs!?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Blech. Do we really have to openshove JJ there?

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't know. The standard raise just seems like it could be easily exploited by an aggressive player. And I would hate to fold the best hand at this stage of the tournament.

StregaChess 03-10-2007 05:01 PM

Re: ($16) JJs & TTs Poorly Played Pairs!?
 
Sorry, no reads, I was a multi tasking (Pregnant wife, every other moment it’s yes dear, might as well even shut HUD down and shot myself)

kbar13 03-10-2007 05:15 PM

Re: ($16) JJs & TTs Poorly Played Pairs!?
 
I think you played both perfectly fine.

pauliewalnuts 03-10-2007 05:24 PM

Re: ($16) JJs & TTs Poorly Played Pairs!?
 
Hand 1: I raise a little less and call the push without a read that he is a nit.

Hand 2: Looks like a good place for a stop-n-go to me. He is never folding to your push and you'll have 1k left on the flop, which is enough to make him fold most missed hands.


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