Settle a Bet, Please
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Last week my friend and I got into an argument about whether Sanjaya would be eliminated on American Idol. Since I knew he wasn’t going home, I laid him odds. Only, it turned out they were eliminating only the bottom two, not the bottom three. Our bet had been over whether Sanjaya would be in the bottom three. The following IM conversation ensued. I highlighted the important parts. ME (2/22/2007 7:19:21 PM): hey ME (2/22/2007 7:19:26 PM): you're freerolling me ME (2/22/2007 7:19:28 PM): goddammit HIM(2/22/2007 7:19:45 PM): ? ME (2/22/2007 7:20:04 PM): they're not going to give us a bottom three HIM(2/22/2007 7:20:11 PM): uh ME (2/22/2007 7:20:12 PM): which means HIM(2/22/2007 7:20:14 PM): not watching yet HIM(2/22/2007 7:20:19 PM): what are they doing ME (2/22/2007 7:20:20 PM): you're not going to pay me HIM(2/22/2007 7:20:21 PM): i mean ME (2/22/2007 7:20:22 PM): if i win ME (2/22/2007 7:20:24 PM): but ME (2/22/2007 7:20:29 PM): if my guys in the bottom two HIM(2/22/2007 7:20:30 PM): from a "who sucks" perspective ME (2/22/2007 7:20:35 PM): you'll want to get paid HIM (2/22/2007 7:20:38 PM): oh only bottom 2 ME (2/22/2007 7:20:58 PM): we gotta cancel the bet ME (2/22/2007 7:21:04 PM): unless you want to change it HIM(2/22/2007 7:21:12 PM): well im not watching me (2/22/2007 7:21:19 PM): youre telliung me theyre only announcinc the bottom 2 ME (2/22/2007 7:21:26 PM): yeah ME (2/22/2007 7:21:30 PM): that's what it looks like HIM(2/22/2007 7:21:44 PM): i want to go on record by the way HIM(2/22/2007 7:22:05 PM): as saying i dont think we gotta cancel the bet; i disagree (just for the record, willing still to discuss tho) ME (2/22/2007 7:22:14 PM): uh ME (2/22/2007 7:22:21 PM): how can i win this bet ME (2/22/2007 7:22:30 PM): if they don't say who the 3rd worst is HIM(2/22/2007 7:22:51 PM): i think we can both agree that hes at least 3rd worse, and therefore you owe me the 10 ME (2/22/2007 7:22:56 PM): ha ME (2/22/2007 7:22:58 PM): well ME (2/22/2007 7:23:03 PM): i gotta cancel then because ME (2/22/2007 7:23:09 PM): it's going to come back on soon HIM(2/22/2007 7:23:11 PM): you cant cancel unilaterally HIM(2/22/2007 7:23:14 PM): well pause goddamit HIM(2/22/2007 7:23:18 PM): you got dvr HIM(2/22/2007 7:23:31 PM): i need waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay betta odds ME (2/22/2007 7:23:43 PM): it's paused ME (2/22/2007 7:23:44 PM): but HIM(2/22/2007 7:23:46 PM): ill do 20-6 thats still way above your random chance of 25% ME (2/22/2007 7:23:51 PM): beth's patience is limited HIM(2/22/2007 7:24:00 PM): and you think hes better than average, at least in likeabilityt HIM(2/22/2007 7:24:06 PM): i mean 20-6 for bottom 2 HIM(2/22/2007 7:24:24 PM): or 10-6, if for some reason they end up announcing bottom 3 HIM(2/22/2007 7:24:30 PM): hey ask her, dont they USUALLY do bottom 3? HIM(2/22/2007 7:25:12 PM): are you watching dammit ME (2/22/2007 7:25:12 PM): she doesn't know HIM(2/22/2007 7:25:22 PM): cheater ME (2/22/2007 7:25:33 PM): it's ok they're doing girlsw now HIM(2/22/2007 7:25:42 PM): ok i withdraw my 20-6 offer HIM(2/22/2007 7:25:47 PM): you didnt accept and it seems too good HIM(2/22/2007 7:25:49 PM): 1/6 chance ME (2/22/2007 7:26:01 PM): 5:15 HIM(2/22/2007 7:26:08 PM): lol HIM(2/22/2007 7:26:11 PM): youre making it WORSE HIM(2/22/2007 7:26:13 PM): for me HIM(2/22/2007 7:26:16 PM): im not an idiot HIM(2/22/2007 7:26:21 PM): i know YOU cant do math, but i can ME (2/22/2007 7:26:21 PM): uh ME (2/22/2007 7:26:37 PM): it was 6:10 HIM(2/22/2007 7:26:42 PM): no for bottom 2 moron HIM(2/22/2007 7:26:48 PM): that makes it harder for me to win ME (2/22/2007 7:26:52 PM): how is 5:15 worse than 6:10 HIM(2/22/2007 7:27:07 PM): its worse thatn the uber genrous 6-20 for bottom 2 that i offered HIM(2/22/2007 7:27:19 PM): fine i accept, 6-10 for bottom 3 [censored] you then HIM(2/22/2007 7:27:31 PM): since 6-10 for bottom 3 is better for you apparently HIM(2/22/2007 7:27:36 PM): thanks for the freeroll ME (2/22/2007 7:27:41 PM): ha HIM(2/22/2007 7:27:53 PM): fine, now you agreee random its 1/6 HIM(2/22/2007 7:27:58 PM): that would be 6/36 ME (2/22/2007 7:28:11 PM): eue3 ME (2/22/2007 7:28:13 PM): dude HIM(2/22/2007 7:28:13 PM): i canceled my offer of 6/20, i offer you 6/30 ME (2/22/2007 7:28:16 PM): it's 1:5 HIM(2/22/2007 7:28:35 PM): ok you accept 6/30 then HIM(2/22/2007 7:28:38 PM): thats 1:5 HIM(2/22/2007 7:28:46 PM): and you think hes better than average HIM(2/22/2007 7:28:49 PM): i offer 6/30 HIM(2/22/2007 7:28:55 PM): or 10/50 your choice ME (2/22/2007 7:28:58 PM): eh HIM(2/22/2007 7:29:04 PM): goddamit i cant stay here forever ME (2/22/2007 7:29:38 PM): i want the value of the bargain ME (2/22/2007 7:29:41 PM): i was getting HIM(2/22/2007 7:29:48 PM): also, you are not making any serious counter offers, you are only retarded-ly making comparisons to when it was bottom 3 HIM(2/22/2007 7:29:52 PM): no HIM(2/22/2007 7:29:56 PM): bottom 2 MUCH harder ME (2/22/2007 7:30:17 PM): 5:20 HIM(2/22/2007 7:30:19 PM): because fatso bearded boiled guy is gonna be one of bottom 2 HIM(2/22/2007 7:30:23 PM): no way HIM(2/22/2007 7:30:32 PM): there are too many serious contenders HIM(2/22/2007 7:30:33 PM): no deal HIM(2/22/2007 7:30:45 PM): serious contenders for suckwad of the nite that is HIM(2/22/2007 7:31:13 PM): deal off, unless they somehow announce bottom 3, in which case old deal still in place ME (2/22/2007 7:31:26 PM): ok Before announcing the final elimination, Ryan announced that one of the contestants was in the top 4, the other was going home. Sanjaya stayed; the goober standing next to him went home. So who wins? |
Re: Settle a Bet, Please
bet is with a friend.... seems like it may have been predicated on sanjaya being bottom 3... him standing at end with AJ does NOT mean he was bottom 3, unless i missed a seacrest comment.
FWIW, antonella and sanjaya seem to be their chosen ones for artificially stressful situations. |
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You win. They announced that he wasn't in the bottom 3. That's what you guys were betting on. If they said one of you is in the bottom 3 and the other is going home you would have lost. They made it pretty clear that he wasn't in the bottom 3.
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Re: Settle a Bet, Please
Bet is off, as you are both morons for betting on B3 when there was no B3, and you should know this if you are going to bet on it.
It depends on the exact wording of the bet, also. If you bet on B3, there was no B3 to bet on or to judge a bet by, so there is no possible way you can settle or even have a bet on this. If you think you can, then we might as well bet on whether the unicorns or the leprechauns won the Superbowl last month. Also, for the future, starting with T12, if you make B3 prop bets, it should be only on who is standing there for the B3. They say or imply other things sometimes, but it's often vague, and/or they may put someone B3 who's not, just for drama, without explicitly stating so. When you make a B3 wager, you are betting on who will be standing next to Ryan at the end, on the chopping block for elimination, whether they explicitly say you are in the bottom 3 of actual votes or not. |
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You win. They announced that he wasn't in the bottom 3. [/ QUOTE ] when did seacrest say that? i must have missed it, not that i watch that closely, but i don't remember that. (i remember the prior week him saying 4th place) |
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when did seacrest say that? i must have missed it, not that i watch that closely, but i don't remember that. (i remember the prior week him saying 4th place) [/ QUOTE ] I think that's the week the OP is talking about. |
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It depends on the exact wording of the bet, also. [/ QUOTE ] I think the exact wording of the bet is pretty clear in the convo. The deal is off unless they say if he was in the bottom 3 of votes or not. They said he was 4th overall therefore it was not possible for him to be in the bottom 3. OP wins the bet. |
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I think that's the week the OP is talking about. [/ QUOTE ] ok, thanks.... very confusing as sanjaya has been been up there at the end when most likely both weeks, he wasn't the next lowest.... sanjaya and antonella are the chosen ones, at least for cheap entertainment. |
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[ QUOTE ] It depends on the exact wording of the bet, also. [/ QUOTE ] I think the exact wording of the bet is pretty clear in the convo. The deal is off unless they say if he was in the bottom 3 of votes or not. They said he was 4th overall therefore it was not possible for him to be in the bottom 3. OP wins the bet. [/ QUOTE ] Talking about exact wording of the original bet, which we don't know. The "clarification" in the convo doesn't help. "deal off, unless they somehow announce bottom 3, in which case old deal still in place" They did not announce bottom 3, so technically by this wording, deal is off, regardless of other Seacrest verbiage. I don't care, don't know either poster, and have no stake in this. Just my thoughts on a prop that was unclear, about an outcome that would not take place. |
Re: Settle a Bet, Please
So far it looks like it's one - one, with applejuice taking my side, and llabb voting against me.
More votes please...? |
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