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Gary Stevenson 03-02-2007 06:33 AM

live 5-10 hand
 
turning stone 5-10 $1k max game...super soft lineup, two online kids who seem to knwo what they're doing, couple of foreign guys who suck (obv) and a few other droolers. table is 9 or 10 handed when the hand comes up-

1 or 2 limpers to a guy in MP who only raises to $35 when he raises...he raises to $35, huge donk who rebought for $160(lol) and has somehow built up to 1.7kish by making terrible plays, retarded bluffs, lots of "feeling" plays, etc. he calls, i make with $160 in CO with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. folds back to the donk with 1.7k who hems and haws and then asks if i will show if he folds, i say no and then he gets into a little speech about how i have nothing and how he needs to push the action...anyway, he eventually calls to my delight.

flop (~$360) K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
he leads very quickly for $300 with about $1300 behind and i have him covered...plan of action?
call flop/get it in on any turn?
call flop/re-eval turn?
raise flop?
shove flop?

(sorry if this is stupid or terrible writing, i've been awake far too long at this point)

HoosierAlum 03-02-2007 06:40 AM

Re: live 5-10 hand
 
I think against villian you have to just jam here. Based on your description I don't see this guy leading a set/K10.

Lots of [censored] turn cards for your hand also.

Edit: How bad is this guy? Would he call off his stack w/KQ or a flush draw? (Im assuming yes)

BobboFitos 03-02-2007 06:40 AM

Re: live 5-10 hand
 
shove

Petteri 03-02-2007 07:53 AM

Re: live 5-10 hand
 
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call flop/get it in on any turn

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Best choice. Give him change to get it all in. Live games need different approach than online poker against competent players. Be trappy against live donks.

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shove flop

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If he is close to calling station you can shove. But as you described he seems to bet many more hands than he calls.

Novles 03-02-2007 09:42 AM

Re: live 5-10 hand
 
i don't think a minraise is too bad here in a live game.

lucksack 03-02-2007 09:48 AM

Re: live 5-10 hand
 
raise flop (call push).

The Man 03-02-2007 12:25 PM

Re: live 5-10 hand
 
I think you can safely shove, because peeling one can give this draw heavy flop a free flush or straight. If the guy is dumb, wont he just donk off his stack here with like AT, KJ, or QJ?

berserk 03-02-2007 01:02 PM

Re: live 5-10 hand
 
I think i'd generally call and shove any turn, although pushingis fine as well.

jsnipes28 03-02-2007 01:09 PM

Re: live 5-10 hand
 
ya i kinda like minraise get it on the turn. but then i realized that live donks have no conception of bet size in relation to the pot so it probably doesnt matter.

just call and get it on the turn.

Clayton 03-02-2007 01:15 PM

Re: live 5-10 hand
 
jsnipes check pm momentarily

for those saying get it in on turn: turn was a middle diamond and villain open shoved


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