Sick of Prem. Hand Limpers
 

Just had to vent. I'm seeing this all to often at lower stakes both in tournies and cash games. Anyone else noticing this? Limping and slow-playing wayyy to much, or pulling what looks like a stop-n-go if a scary flop for them comes. The worst cases I've seen are donks limping from ep then a raise comes and they come back with an all-in pf. After the surge of instructional DVD's, books, and sites you'd think this would be a rare occurence; but I'm seeing it every time I sit down.

Re: Sick of Prem. Hand Limpers
 

maybe we can just get them to tell you what the cards are next time so that you won't have to worry about being tricked when they play in a way you don't like.

News Flash - people can play any hand any way they want - get over it and start folding if it happens - jeez.

whiner

rb

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Somebody limp-reraises:
I think "interesting" and will also be interested to see what holding they are doing this with.
It never has occured to me to get upset about it.
Still not sure why I should or why you do.

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Uhh.. well depending on the table and situation, they're either making a mistake or not. If they're not, you're being silly. If they are making a fundamental mistake, this is basically another way of saying "I HATE DONKS", and the topic is still silly.

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All right community I give. Yes, sir may I have another. Lock thread.

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Limping early with a premium hand is a legitimate play at a loose-agressive table if your intention is to expect a raise behind you and then come over the top. This is especially true if you alternate and raise early with premium hands as well. Further, a play like this might allow you in the future to limp early with something like QJs or 88 and not get raised behind if the opponents have been paying attention.

Another legit limp is in SB and it is folded to you. You are essentially starting a trap right at preflop.

Of course, you need to mix up your play and not do this with every premium hand you get (or even most of them for that matter).

I even remember reading a Daniel Negranau article where he says that limping once and awhile with AA will make you harder to read.

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I see a lot more of it in Limit than NL lately. Every time I have tried limping in with a prem. pair I get burned so I never do it at all in any game. Who wants 6 limpers when you have QQ?

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Yeah, I understand the strategy in doing in from time to time and the situations that may arise. I also completely understand 'not tapping the tank' and smiling in glee when I see a donk at the table. I guess I wasn't completely clear in that I was making an observation that this seems to be happening much more than I've seen in the past and seems to be more the rule than the exception for most players at low stakes. I don't get worked up about it I guess as post title may imply. I just find it odd post HoH, et al.

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I think I feel your pain with the limoping with big pairs thing. It can be very ahrd to put players on ranges of hands when they do this and it can be frustrating at LHE or NLHE.

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On the flip side of the coin, I have also seen a lot of situations where a player does limp with AA and a rainbow flop falls, they then manage to get all their money in against a limper who has caught 2 pair, with cards like 6,8 off!!

What is most satisfying though is when they are on the rail screaming that the player who limped is a donk.... lol.

Probably be best just to note which players are capable of this sort of play and be more apprehensive against them when only flopping a pair etc.