$10/180 JJ flops an overpair and check/folds
 

MP2 is 40/30 but only over 20 hands and I've seen him showdown 2 solid well-played hands. The small preflop re-raise of my EP raise really smelled fishy (edit: by that I mean felt like a big pair that wanted some action) but I couldn't pass up 3.3-to-1.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t2817)
UTG (t4400)
UTG+1 (t3435)
Hero (t3205)
MP2 (t4902)
MP3 (t3849)
CO (t1900)
Button (t4696)
SB (t3247)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t275</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t576</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero calls t301.

Flop: (t1302) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t788</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t2090

Re: $10/180 JJ flops an overpair and check/folds
 

Two well played hands out of the eight that he has already played?

I think I shove this

Re: $10/180 JJ flops an overpair and check/folds
 

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Two well played hands out of the eight that he has already played?

I think I shove this

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Well he only showed 2 hands down and both of those were played in a manner that suggested he wasn't a donk. This of course conflicted with the fact that he had played so many hands in the time I was at the table but 20 hands of data isn't really much to rely on.

Re: $10/180 JJ flops an overpair and check/folds
 

I would of fired the bet of around 800 first just to see what MP2 would do. If MP2 shoved I would make my decision there as to whether I think I am beat. I would get all my chips in here with this hand. You can't always be worried your opponent has the better of you or the nuts.

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I would of fired the bet of around 800 first just to see what MP2 would do. If MP2 shoved I would make my decision there as to whether I think I am beat. I would get all my chips in here with this hand. You can't always be worried your opponent has the better of you or the nuts.

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I can't really make a meaningful lead then get away from the hand. If I had another 1500 to 2000 chips I would have bet right out at the flop.

I would guess 95% or more of the time my chips would have went in here. I'm not sure what I'm after by posting this hand, other than I felt really weak laying this down even though I was fairly certain I was behind.

Re: $10/180 JJ flops an overpair and check/folds
 

I play this the same.

Check out this hand that I posted a while back. It is very simmilar.

Re: $10/180 JJ flops an overpair and check/folds
 

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I would of fired the bet of around 800 first just to see what MP2 would do.


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This is horrible advice.

check/folding &gt; CRAI &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; leading

Re: $10/180 JJ flops an overpair and check/folds
 

I dont mind the fold here but i have to ask y did u call preflop. Presumably, u called to see a flop with no overcards yet then u fold when this flop comes. I think u played it slighly timidly for that reason. If u think he has u beat pre flop then fold. Instead, u called, didnt know where u were and folded 2 a very good flop for your hand. My advice would be try and define ur hand preflop because u clearly didnt know where u were postflop.

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I dont mind the fold here but i have to ask y did u call preflop.

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I thought very hard about just folding preflop but it's very difficult to fold JJ preflop getting 3.3-to-1 pot odds.



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Presumably, u called to see a flop with no overcards yet then u fold when this flop comes.

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I called hoping to flop a set with the intention of proceeding very carefully if I flopped an overpair.



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My advice would be try and define ur hand preflop because u clearly didnt know where u were postflop.

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I can't afford to define my hand preflop.

Re: $10/180 JJ flops an overpair and check/folds
 

Goonercam

We are obviously calling preflop for set value here.