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FeNeF 02-21-2007 06:29 PM

($27) JJ gets in a weird spot
 
The table has been pretty tight, and neither of these guys has done anything outright stupid.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t2120)
UTG+1 (t1360)
MP1 (t1410)
Hero (t1265)
CO (t1385)
Button (t3075)
SB (t2000)
BB (t885)

Preflop: Hero is in MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t275</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t225, BB calls t175

Flop: (t825) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
<font color="red">SB bets t100</font>, BB calls t100, Hero?

ryanghall 02-21-2007 07:10 PM

Re: ($27) JJ gets in a weird spot
 
See why pushing preflop here is good? What I'd do here would really depend on the opponents. I have a feeling you're ahead.

Ryan

SeanyBullets 02-21-2007 07:34 PM

Re: ($27) JJ gets in a weird spot
 
PF I'd raise to at least 350 or push.

DevinLake 02-21-2007 09:11 PM

Re: ($27) JJ gets in a weird spot
 
Tough spot. Really difficult to say. There is nothing in this action that defines your hand.

I really don't see much of a point at leading this flop. It certianly looks like a probe bet. While the call could mean anything because of the stupidity of the size of the donk bet.

Both seem to be looking to you for an answer. So, I'd shove my chips in and say my hand is good. I don't want to give two opponents free cards on this board.

starchyy 02-21-2007 10:07 PM

Re: ($27) JJ gets in a weird spot
 
i'm coming over the top here alot of the time, very good chance you are ahead. sb could be on a flush draw wanting to see a cheap street. a shove pf isn't a bad idea either.

hamnegger 02-21-2007 10:16 PM

Re: ($27) JJ gets in a weird spot
 
push

AMT 02-21-2007 10:31 PM

Re: ($27) JJ gets in a weird spot
 
ew, flop is tough, id shove PF every time in this spot with stack though

braminc 02-21-2007 10:38 PM

Re: ($27) JJ gets in a weird spot
 
i fold. as much as it sucks and as weak a bet that is, the chance that one of them has a Q is way to high to just push HOPING that they dont have a Q

Slow Learner 02-21-2007 10:43 PM

Re: ($27) JJ gets in a weird spot
 
I dont understand why some people are advocating staying in this hand.

If you call there are just so many cards you dont want to see. Its fair odds on youll have to put the hand down at some point.

And if you raise? well IF youre ahead, your opponents will probably have a fair few outs (if chasing draws) and if youre behind youre XXXXXX.

IMHO, you have to push preflop (as many have already stated) but as played Id have to fold and kick myself.

Just my two pence.

Pudge714 02-22-2007 01:44 AM

Re: ($27) JJ gets in a weird spot
 
Preflop is fine.If you can play good postflop.
I shove this flop. That minbet is rarely a better hand and your stack is smaller than the pot.


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