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Morrek 02-16-2007 04:30 PM

QQ preflop heavy action 1000nl
 
UTG is 25/22, tilting a bit so not too worried about him.
UTG+1 is 28/14 pretty much unknown, haven't seen him reraise before.
Shortstack SB is 20/10 over few hands, no read except he's short.


Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1124
UTG+1: $899
CO: $1414
Button: $2651.10
SB: $216.25
Hero: $1170

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $40</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $140</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in $211.25</font>, Hero...


I don't remember the last time I folded QQ preflop but, could this be a spot to do so?

oyvindgee 02-16-2007 04:35 PM

Re: QQ preflop heavy action 1000nl
 
I fold this without much thought.

LurkerAnon 02-16-2007 04:35 PM

Re: QQ preflop heavy action 1000nl
 
almost always fold this w/ unknown reraising for the first time. The only thing that may justify a call is the fact that you can't get raised

Still I like fold

rvg72 02-16-2007 04:35 PM

Re: QQ preflop heavy action 1000nl
 
I'm clicking on Fold even before the SB action.

rvg

oyvindgee 02-16-2007 04:37 PM

Re: QQ preflop heavy action 1000nl
 
[ QUOTE ]
almost always fold this w/ unknown reraising for the first time. The only thing that may justify a call is the fact that you can't get raised

Still I like fold

[/ QUOTE ]

UTG can still raise.

LurkerAnon 02-16-2007 04:41 PM

Re: QQ preflop heavy action 1000nl
 
UMMMMMM, insta-fold then

Morrek 02-16-2007 05:04 PM

Re: QQ preflop heavy action 1000nl
 
Really? I would never fold this to a simple 3bet. It gets a little tricky when a shortstack goes allin after that action however

LurkerAnon 02-16-2007 05:07 PM

Re: QQ preflop heavy action 1000nl
 
how many hands have you seen from utg+1...either way, obviously folding once sb pushes with utg tilt-tard left to act

spino1i 02-16-2007 05:24 PM

Re: QQ preflop heavy action 1000nl
 
I think id probably toss QQ here. Too much action and I got nothin committed.

Morrek 02-16-2007 05:27 PM

Re: QQ preflop heavy action 1000nl
 
about 60-70 hands or so. And just because I haven't seen him reraise doesn't mean he hasn't ever, it just means he hasn't reraised when I was active in the hand(I'm 6tabling+2p2+msn+irc). I'd probably put him on something like AQ+ JJ+ ~90%, other-stuff ~10%.

No idea how he reacts to a 4bet, but I'd assume he gives me respect for a decent hand. Heck, if I push into 3 ppl(one allin already but still) he might even fold AK(which is a good thing even tho im slightly ahead, I haven't done the math but I think that's correct) and definitely stuff like AQ or worse. If UTG calls I'd be thrilled because as I said he's been tilting and I'm not worried about him at all. I've been messing with him a little bit and he'd probably call with JJ, maybe worse.

But what about the shortstack? he's been tight and all, and there's some action ahead of him so I don't think he'll stick it in with 66 or something, although it's not totally out of the question. He went allin pretty fast fwiw


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