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Statutory 02-11-2007 05:47 PM

2 River AI bluffs. Thoughts?
 
I was playing pretty tight today, havent been mixing ti up too much. Runing around 19/15/3


Villan 25/20/2.4, no real history.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($571)
Hero ($394.50)
MP ($400)
Button ($153.80)
SB ($108.30)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $4. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $44</font>, MP calls $34.

Flop: ($98) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $88</font>, MP calls $88.

Turn: ($274) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks.

River: ($274) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero calls $390.50 (All-In)...


Villan is 30/18/1.4, Again no real history.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($1054.36)
Hero ($530.60)
MP ($467)
CO ($406)
Button ($532.80)
SB ($454.20)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $14, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($34) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, CO calls $30.

Turn: ($94) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $85</font>, CO calls $85.

River: ($264) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero calls $530.60 (All-In),

Statutory 02-11-2007 10:47 PM

Re: 2 River AI bluffs. Thoughts?
 
Bizzump

DLizzle 02-11-2007 10:51 PM

Re: 2 River AI bluffs. Thoughts?
 
i kinda like them, but I shouldn't even comment on bluffs

EgoSlasher 02-11-2007 11:07 PM

Re: 2 River AI bluffs. Thoughts?
 
Hand 1: Why did you feel you have more fold equity on the river than on the Turn?

Eagles 02-11-2007 11:56 PM

Re: 2 River AI bluffs. Thoughts?
 
Hand 1 I like a lot against a villain like that he'd prob shove the turn with a lot of hands because the board is pretty drawy.

Hand 2: I like, villain can call that flop pretty wide and the ace and king def hurt his hand. It makes a call with mid pairs way tougher. I doubt he'd float two streets with ace high and if he floated king high he needs to fold. The only thing I can really see him calling with here is 22 or 44.

LegallyBlind 02-12-2007 12:02 AM

Re: 2 River AI bluffs. Thoughts?
 
hand 1 is pretty sweet. hand 2 is ok

Statutory 02-12-2007 12:21 AM

Re: 2 River AI bluffs. Thoughts?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hand 1 I like a lot against a villain like that he'd prob shove the turn with a lot of hands because the board is pretty drawy.

Hand 2: I like, villain can call that flop pretty wide and the ace and king def hurt his hand. It makes a call with mid pairs way tougher. I doubt he'd float two streets with ace high and if he floated king high he needs to fold. The only thing I can really see him calling with here is 22 or 44.

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I think you got the hands flipped around, but this was my analysis.

Gobgogbog 02-12-2007 12:22 AM

Re: 2 River AI bluffs. Thoughts?
 
I like both river bluffs. I would bet smaller on both flops, though.

Statutory 02-12-2007 12:25 AM

Re: 2 River AI bluffs. Thoughts?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hand 1: Why did you feel you have more fold equity on the river than on the Turn?

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To determine fold equity I would have to put vilan on a range. when he peels the flop, I generally put him on a 55-99 type hand. Sometimes a suspicious villan will call the turn bet on scare card, which I guessed he did. Either that or he is slow playing house/quads.

The reasons I think my FEQ increased on the river are two fold.
1) Its gonna be one tough call with 99 on an AK board.

2) Villan has to assume my 3 barrel frequency is lower than my 2 barrel frequency on turn scare card.

Statutory 02-12-2007 12:28 AM

Re: 2 River AI bluffs. Thoughts?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I like both river bluffs. I would bet smaller on both flops, though.

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Today I was experimenting with almost pot sized as opposed to 2/3 pot. I have been getting called by bottom pair no kicker for the last 3 days, so I decided to give a larger C Bet a try.

Results are varied.


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