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raju 02-01-2007 07:45 AM

Terminology Q - trips/set?
 
I hold eg: 55 - 5 comes on the flop - Is this trips or a set?
OR
I hold 5x and 55 comes on the flop - Is this trips or is it a set?
cant remember if i saw someone make the distinction on these forums or on the TV

I know this information wont gain me any edge.

I just like to be correct when im BS-ing the table

Thanks

NeilDiamond 02-01-2007 07:49 AM

Re: Terminology Q - trips/set?
 
If you hold a pocket pair (i.e. 55) in your hand and the flop comes 5xx, that is a set.

If you hold a single card (i.e. 5x) in your hand and the flop comes 55x, that is trips.

I mean, they are both trips - it's just that the term 'set' is reserved for a pocket pair making trips.

Hope this helps.

raju 02-01-2007 07:56 AM

Re: Terminology Q - trips/set?
 
Perfect Neil. Thanks very much

Im now ready to BS correctly.


Happy days!

Frond 02-01-2007 12:06 PM

Re: Terminology Q - trips/set?
 
I learned this last year as well. I always used to call any 3 of a kind trips, but like was said there is a difference. I think of it was posted but also when the board pairs it is possible that someone now has trips. Set=hidden, trips=obvious

AKQJ10 02-01-2007 03:23 PM

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Just to confuse everything, you'll sometimes see a set referred to by good writer as "a set of trips" or even (e.g. by Harrington) as trips. I'm of the opinion that any set can be considered trips, but obviously trips with a pair on board isn't a set.

Moreover, uninformed people use the two interchangeably. I heard "set" used with a pair on board at least twice in Tunica. Both times I tried to make some comment about how they didn't have a set, if they'd had a set they'd now have a full house, etc. But it's a losing battle since I don't want to become the table nit, and my prediction is that this useful distinction will die out because of people's ignorance.

Finally, I think any trips can be called a set in non-flop games.

PantsOnFire 02-01-2007 04:47 PM

Re: Terminology Q - trips/set?
 
I use the same terminology as Neil.

And I do think it is important because a set is much more powerful than trips. With top set and no flush or straight possibilities, you have the nuts.

You can share trips but not a set. You can get outkicked with trips but not a set. As well, there are terms like top set or bottom set that don't apply to trips.

eastcoaster 02-01-2007 05:11 PM

Re: Terminology Q - trips/set?
 
"Trips" is a generic term for three of a kind...no matter how its sliced, no matter the poker game. A "set" is three of a kind (trips) but with your hole cards paired, and the third one on the board.

I have never heard it referred to as a "set" in stud or draw. In 7-stud, when your first three cards are all the same, it is said that you are "rolled up" (i.e. rolled up aces).

AKQJ10 02-01-2007 08:02 PM

Re: Terminology Q - trips/set?
 
In addition to the universal rolled up to mean starting with trips, I've heard set to mean trips in 7-stud. I seem to remember it being "catching a set" or similar. I don't think it has to be matching a buried pair, either.

Mike Gallo 02-02-2007 04:58 PM

Re: Terminology Q - trips/set?
 
I hold 5x and 55 comes on the flop - Is this trips or is it a set?

A set.

Only one person can flop a certain set. Example with a board of 5 9 Q, only one person can flop a set of 5's..one a set of 9's another a set of Q's..do you see why???

With a pair on board more than one player can have tripps.

AKQJ10 02-02-2007 06:55 PM

Re: Terminology Q - trips/set?
 
Mike Gallo,

Your response is self-contradictory, implying that you misread "I hold 5x and 55 comes on the flop" to be something like, "I hold 55 and 5xx comes on the flop."

But except for the set part, I agree.


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