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DaCooler 01-29-2007 12:35 PM

how can i extract the most out of this?? turned quads
 
Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $114.26
UTG+1: $269.95
CO: $173.30
Button: $163.38
SB: $413.95
Hero: $228.65

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $6</font>, CO calls, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($19, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $14</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $28</font>, CO folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($75, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $30</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $60</font>, UTG+1 calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($195, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in $134.65</font>.

tufat23 01-29-2007 12:38 PM

Re: how can i extract the most out of this?? turned quads
 
what. seems fine

EddieRooo 01-29-2007 12:40 PM

Re: how can i extract the most out of this?? turned quads
 
This seems fine, I would raise slightly more on the turn though.

einherjar 01-29-2007 12:41 PM

Re: how can i extract the most out of this?? turned quads
 
why don't we want to pump the flop more/lead the turn?

SABR42 01-29-2007 12:41 PM

Re: how can i extract the most out of this?? turned quads
 
3-bet the flop.

DirteAA 01-29-2007 12:41 PM

Re: how can i extract the most out of this?? turned quads
 
compared to your bet sizing on previous streets your river all in looks fishy to me. but i know what you have, so meh.

i think this line is ok. you could always 3-bet flop, get more in the pot. lead turn for about 1/2 pot once you quad up, then the pot is big enough on river he will feel compelled to call if he has tpgk.

Praetor 01-29-2007 12:43 PM

Re: how can i extract the most out of this?? turned quads
 
3 bet the flop

DaCooler 01-29-2007 01:11 PM

Re: how can i extract the most out of this?? turned quads
 
3 betting that flop gets AQ or AK to fold quite a bit

winterGT 01-29-2007 01:18 PM

Re: how can i extract the most out of this?? turned quads
 
Either b3b flop, or if you want to take this line, you really have to raise more on the turn. A minraise kinda sucks here as he can get away from the river. If you raise to $90 (less than a pot sized raise) and shove the river, that'll be a $103 into a $250 pot so he isn't getting away nearly as easily that way.

Spy Dog 01-29-2007 01:19 PM

Re: how can i extract the most out of this?? turned quads
 
[ QUOTE ]
3 betting that flop gets AQ or AK to fold quite a bit

[/ QUOTE ]

Maybe, but we never know what they fold and I think enough people call a smallish 3-bet (minreraise, anyone?) for the 3-bet to be the best play.

If you think he might be tight enough to fold AK/AQ on the flop then you still need to lead the turn. When you have a monster OOP then your goal in most cases (including this one) needs to be to avoid an unbet street.


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