rongsht with overpair
 

smart thinking lag tag 37/25/1.9

turn raise was intending to fold to a 3bet.
river donk looks so fishy.
6 handed
Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4.6SB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4.3BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (8.3BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero???

Re: rongsht with overpair
 

raise/call. It just looks like he's too likely to be heading off a free showdown play from you. It's important to punish the lagtags with good hands when you get them. They make a lot from scaring people into missing value.

Re: rongsht with overpair
 

This is a great spot to raise for a free showdown. He probably knows this so he wants to make sure that doesn't happen. However you weren't looking for a free showdown, so it's time to raise/profit.

Re: rongsht with overpair
 

ok I raised, and he 3-bet. now what?

Re: rongsht with overpair
 

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ok I raised, and he 3-bet. now what?

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This spot sux. Because he's so aggro and tricky you can probably convince yourself to call, and maybe that's not bad, but I think you are beat almost always here.

22? Possibly a trickily played 7.

Re: rongsht with overpair
 

Wow. I would pretty much never raise this river. And I'd fold to the 3-bet unless his river aggression is insanely high (his overall aggression isn't that high.

Re: rongsht with overpair
 

I think its not a CLEAR raise. But I am probably missing value if I don't raise.

I can't see him 3 bet bluffing here more than 1 in 13 times or wahtever.

Re: rongsht with overpair
 

I think your turn raise is terrible. Call the river.

Re: rongsht with overpair
 

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I think your turn raise is terrible. Call the river.

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whats wrong with the turn raise?
weaker hands rarely 3bet the turn right?
oh hmm..
maybe he could put me on an AK type hand and "value" 3bet his middle pair?

Re: rongsht with overpair
 

When I just call the flop raise with the intent to raise the turn, there are 3 cards I'm usually not going to raise, TP, or either card that completes an OESD. I still don't think your turn raise is awful, but I'm not raising the river because I will not fold to a 3-bet on the river. Don't forget that a key part of beating LAG's or even LAGGY TAGs is to showdown strong hands, not make "good folds".