200bb deep against villian who will payoff...what to do?
 

I've played about 125 hands against button and he's pretty much my dream. Will put insane amounts of money in the middle with any draw and even an overpair. I like to think my read on him is very solid and his play is usually quite transparent. Then this hand came up.

edit: Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter


Stack sizes:
skitzofranik: $215.45
UTG+1: $43.10
CO: $98.50
Button: $177
SB: $86.65
BB: $18.90


Pre-flop: (6 players) skitzofranik is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

skitzofranik raises to $3.5, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Button raises to $15.5, 2 folds, skitzofranik calls, UTG+1 calls.

[I realize this is a really loose call but he's pretty much told me his hand is AAxx and in previous instances he's shown me that i will get paid off for his whole stack if i hit any decent flop. I like being out of position here because supposing i do hit and check to him I know he will bet pot]

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($48, 3 players)
skitzofranik checks, UTG+1 checks, Button bets $48, skitzofranik???

I'm interested in what you all would do here. I'll post my thoughts after some responses.

Also, if anyone knows a better converter please say so. This was painful to post

Re: 200bb deep against villian who will payoff...what to do?
 

I'd pot it back to him if he's capable of folding at all. If not, it's probably more profitable to call and then bet into him when you pull something on the turn, or river, if he checks it.

This has the added benefit of potentially getting away from second best flush... although I am probably going nowhere against this sort of opponents.

Re: 200bb deep against villian who will payoff...what to do?
 

I'd just C/R all-in on the flop. You're about as big of a favorite against naked AAxx as you are an underdog when his AA has nut diamonds. Based on the fact that he'll probably raise bad aces just as easily as double-suited aces preflop, you're going to be up against diamonds significantly less than half the time. Just calling the flop does nothing, as you really don't know what your bad cards are. You'll still have the odds to call anything but an ace if you're up against naked AAxx.

Re: 200bb deep against villian who will payoff...what to do?
 

Thanks. In reality i did c/r all in figuring i was a slight favorite to his AAxx. I was right and bricked horribly. Villain had AA45r i believe (at work so cant look it up). turn was 2 and river was 9. WHY GOD WHY CANT I WIN THESE POTS!?!?! same damn villain took another 300bb pot from me when my AAKTds lost to his AAT4ss when he rivered his flush (we were AIPF). I hate variance [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Re: 200bb deep against villian who will payoff...what to do?
 

If you did anything wrong in this hand, it was probably the initial UTG raise. Remember, position, position, position. Especially with a short-stack in the BB that can get it all-in PF over any raise, I think a limp would have been better to begin with.

Re: 200bb deep against villian who will payoff...what to do?
 

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Thanks. In reality i did c/r all in figuring i was a slight favorite to his AAxx. I was right and bricked horribly. Villain had AA45r i believe (at work so cant look it up). turn was 2 and river was 9. WHY GOD WHY CANT I WIN THESE POTS!?!?! same damn villain took another 300bb pot from me when my AAKTds lost to his AAT4ss when he rivered his flush (we were AIPF). I hate variance [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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You must come to love variance. You played this hand perfectly, winning or no, don't beat yourself up about it.