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re-nakken 01-19-2007 08:55 PM

1/2 Turned bottom set
 
No reads.

1.00/2.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit )
Seat 1: Painovoima (230.85)
Seat 2: Villain (199.95)
Seat 3: Wallace26 (190.75)
Seat 4: Lauste (155.90)
Seat 5: Hero (376.20)
Painovoima post SB 1.00
OverCoated post BB 2.00
** Deal **
Hero [8d, 8h]

*** Bet Round 1 ***

Wallace26 Call 2.00
Lauste Fold
Hero Raise to 10.00
Painovoima Fold
Villain Call 10.00
Wallace26 Call 10.00
*** Flop(Board): *** : [Ac, Jh, 10d]

*** Bet Round 2 ***

Villain Check
Wallace26 Check
Hero Check
*** Turn(Board): *** : [Ac, Jh, 10d, 8c]

*** Bet Round 3 ***

Villain Bet 22.00
Wallace26 Fold
Hero Raise to 64.00
Villain Call 64.00
*** River(Board): *** : [Ac, Jh, 10d, 8c, 10h]

*** Bet Round 4 ***

Villain Bet 120.00
Hero ?

Albert Moulton 01-20-2007 01:33 AM

Re: 1/2 Turned bottom set
 
Folding is out of the question.

I'd call. Even though I have a full house, and even though villain might call if I raise with any number of straights, I think he would have gotten more in on the turn if he had a straight. I also think he might have slowed down on the paired river with a straight. So, I'd call here with my bottom full house and expect to see a bigger full house as often as I see a straight or trip Ts.

Kilillan 01-20-2007 01:35 AM

Re: 1/2 Turned bottom set
 
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Folding is out of the question.

I'd call. Even though I have a full house, and even though villain might call if I raise with any number of straights, I think he would have gotten more in on the turn if he had a straight. I also think he might have slowed down on the paired river with a straight. So, I'd call here with my bottom full house and expect to see a bigger full house as often as I see a straight or trip Ts.

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uhh, if I'm reading this right, the river bet puts villain allin

so yeah snap call ship the QK

cbboy 01-20-2007 01:39 AM

Re: 1/2 Turned bottom set
 
No choice but to call. I think folding here would be weak without a sick read.

DaCooler 01-20-2007 02:05 AM

Re: 1/2 Turned bottom set
 
very possible villian has J10 or A10, but also very possibly he has KQ, although i think he pushes turn with that, either way, your calling

JPittBoss 01-20-2007 02:18 AM

Re: 1/2 Turned bottom set
 
the outcome?

re-nakken 01-20-2007 08:03 AM

Re: 1/2 Turned bottom set
 
I really, really didn't like his riverlead. Putting him allin, as you guys are saying - a fold is out of the question. But I was thinking he might have been slowplaying KQ, but usually he would put alot more in on the turn. AT had me a bit worried. How often does he have AA, TT, JJ here? But I called without thinking too much about it, I think I'm good here most of the times.

He showed JTs

poppingit 01-20-2007 08:21 AM

Re: 1/2 Turned bottom set
 
I dont like your turn raise on this board simply because of the spot you now find yourself in. I understand that this may be leaving some value on the table in some instances however in many instances it would make sense not to inflate this pot on this board as folding the river will be really tough. As play though the river is always a call.

re-nakken 01-20-2007 08:33 AM

Re: 1/2 Turned bottom set
 
[ QUOTE ]
I dont like your turn raise on this board simply because of the spot you now find yourself in. I understand that this may be leaving some value on the table in some instances however in many instances it would make sense not to inflate this pot on this board as folding the river will be really tough. As play though the river is always a call.

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Whats your line?

Praetor 01-20-2007 08:42 AM

Re: 1/2 Turned bottom set
 
not raising the turn would be horrible

call river


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