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The.Accountant 01-19-2007 12:49 PM

Does this suck?
 
Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB folds, CO calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (10.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 14.5BB

danzasmack 01-19-2007 01:00 PM

Re: Does this suck?
 
it looks like it does. You have no read apparently.

The river really looks like a fold but who knows in these games. When he doesn't cap the turn I want to call that river.

It's not as bad as it looks at 1st glance.

bung 01-19-2007 01:07 PM

Re: Does this suck?
 
*grunch*

Call turn, B/F river. Villain has a set, trips, possibly even a FH.

Can anybody find a fold on the turn here?

bung 01-19-2007 01:10 PM

Re: Does this suck?
 
[ QUOTE ]
it looks like it does. You have no read apparently.

The river really looks like a fold but who knows in these games. When he doesn't cap the turn I want to call that river.

It's not as bad as it looks at 1st glance.

[/ QUOTE ]

*grunch*

Villain isn't capping because he's trying to trap Hero for two extra bets. He knows Hero will c-bet, and might even call a raise. TWIWP, fold river.

danzasmack 01-19-2007 01:16 PM

Re: Does this suck?
 
But villain isn't raising top pair on the flop?

And that river is a tough one to bet/fold.

milesdyson 01-19-2007 01:26 PM

Re: Does this suck?
 
Turn 3-bet is bad. Not because you don't have the best hand or anything, but because he is drawing dead a ton and the only way you can win more from these hands is by calling.

mvoss 01-19-2007 01:27 PM

Re: Does this suck?
 
Knowing whether villain is passive or aggressive would help a lot here.

Vs. an unknown I don't really like the turn 3-bet. I just call and probably c/c the river.

mute 01-19-2007 01:34 PM

Re: Does this suck?
 
Just call down from turn. On this board it is very likely either a jack or a bluff.

nickg1532 01-19-2007 01:36 PM

Re: Does this suck?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Can anybody find a fold on the turn here?

[/ QUOTE ]

i don't think so. but i don't like a 3 bet either, so as was already mentioned, just call down from the turn

bung 01-19-2007 01:38 PM

Re: Does this suck?
 
[ QUOTE ]
But villain isn't raising top pair on the flop?

And that river is a tough one to bet/fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

Couldn't villain be waiting for a safe turn card to raise his hand?


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