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bgmula 01-12-2007 10:53 AM

nl100 kj looks like a bluffer help
 
what is your line here and do i make this call?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($101)
CO ($343.90)
Button ($46.05)
Hero ($109.65)
BB ($54.20)
UTG ($200.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, BB calls $4, Button calls $4.

Flop: ($15) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $11</font>, BB calls $11, Button folds.

Turn: ($37) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $38.2 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $38.20.

River: ($113.40) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $113.40

jk3a 01-12-2007 10:58 AM

Re: nl100 kj looks like a bluffer help
 
reads??? he's a shorty, i call. i really like the turn check

deucedeuce00 01-12-2007 11:15 AM

Re: nl100 kj looks like a bluffer help
 
Well played. If he had much more I'd be inclined to fold.

MortenTA 01-12-2007 11:23 AM

Re: nl100 kj looks like a bluffer help
 
with no read or stats - your hand is nothin else than a bluff catcher right now..

I fold

jk3a 01-12-2007 11:32 AM

Re: nl100 kj looks like a bluffer help
 
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with no read or stats - your hand is nothin else than a bluff catcher right now..

I fold

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your giving this guy too much credit. He's a shortstack and he open limp/ called on the button.

sigurrostyp 01-12-2007 11:42 AM

Re: nl100 kj looks like a bluffer help
 
standard

Kala1928 01-12-2007 11:44 AM

Re: nl100 kj looks like a bluffer help
 
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with no read or stats - your hand is nothin else than a bluff catcher right now..

I fold

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your giving this guy too much credit. He's a shortstack and he open limp/ called on the button.

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You do realize he has to be bluffing very very very very often to make calling profitable?

DanIsBluffin 01-12-2007 11:49 AM

Re: nl100 kj looks like a bluffer help
 
To be honest, this villain probably didn't think "am I value betting or am I bluffing" as he dragged his slider to the max. He might be (and probably was) value betting his 10, when infact he was bluffing.

Nice hand OP.

jk3a 01-12-2007 11:52 AM

Re: nl100 kj looks like a bluffer help
 
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with no read or stats - your hand is nothin else than a bluff catcher right now..

I fold

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your giving this guy too much credit. He's a shortstack and he open limp/ called on the button.

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You do realize he has to be bluffing very very very very often to make calling profitable?

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4 verys, WOW! Since villian is unlikely to have AJ/KQ since he limp/called preflop, that gives our hand increased equity when we're not ahead with our outs. You are simply wrong here. We only need 33% equity here to make calling breakeven. Agaisnt a shorty who obv. sucks, we will see plenty of garbage and suck out often enough to make calling profitable. Folding here is just plain bad.

bgmula 01-12-2007 05:34 PM

Re: nl100 kj looks like a bluffer help
 
good discussion,
anyone else before i reveal results


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