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Route66 12-29-2006 01:11 AM

NL50 - Flop set... Flush card on turn
 
Assuming I give him credit for the flush, not getting 3.5 to 1 odds to call hoping to fill up, can you assume implied odds would be enough to warrant a call?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($50.25)
CO ($29.25)
Button ($49.75)
SB ($57.60)
BB ($61.75)
UTG ($25.80)
UTG+1 ($39.20)
MP1 ($30)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP1 posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.50, MP1 (poster) checks, Hero calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($3) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, Button calls $2, SB folds, BB calls $2, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds.

Turn: ($9) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $5</font>, Hero ???


If I did the math right, I'd need to be able to get another $3.50 from villain if I fill up, which shouldn't be too difficult with a $19 pot. Is there a rule of thumb to use at the table to figure out whether you are getting implied odds in this situation (i.e. less than PSB call, something like that)?

Thanks.

_TKO_ 12-29-2006 01:33 AM

Re: NL50 - Flop set... Flush card on turn
 
It's actually 3.6:1 to fill up, so you need to make up $4 on the river, which, once again, wouldn't be hard. Although, if there's a decent chance that you could be up against a semi-bluff, getting it all in on the turn is probably better. Also, I would have bet at least $3 on the flop, mostly because it's multiway.

sippin_criss 12-29-2006 02:01 AM

Re: NL50 - Flop set... Flush card on turn
 
id bet more on the flop, but if he does have a flush and you hit the river you're def going to get paid. also calling a smallish bet on a non c river is probably fine as well, since his range here isnt 100% flush.

HoldenFoldem 12-29-2006 02:23 AM

Re: NL50 - Flop set... Flush card on turn
 
your ideal card on the river is the 2c giving you a full house and making for an easy flush for every body else. dump it all in if you catch your full on the river....they call more often than not making it far more profitable than a psb.

TheSalche 12-29-2006 02:56 AM

Re: NL50 - Flop set... Flush card on turn
 
Bet full pot on that flop into the 839466379 players

Route66 12-29-2006 08:17 AM

Re: NL50 - Flop set... Flush card on turn
 
Yeah, flop bet should have been more. They actually rake it during the hand, so at the time the pot was $2.85, and my normal flop bet is around 3/4 pot (try to make this consistent with TP, set, c-bet, etc), so that would have been a bit over $2. But I didn't consider the number of players seeing the flop, and how multiple callers would affect the odds subsequent callers would be getting. Just had a little brain lapse there.

Thanks.


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