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TheSalche 12-28-2006 04:18 AM

1/2 8/b: How\'s my 6th street raise?
 
Comments on all streets welcome. Should I have dumped it earlier? As played is 6th street raise sexy or no-sexy?

7 Card Stud High-Low ($1/$2), Ante $0.10, Bring-In $0.50 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.80 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 2: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 3: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 7: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (3.80 SB)

Seat 3: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 4: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___calls

5th Street - (4.90 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 4: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls

6th Street - (7.90 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises

River - (13.90 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___checks
Seat 4: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___checks
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks

Total pot: (13.90 BB)

bigredlemon 12-28-2006 04:23 AM

Re: 1/2 8/b: How\'s my 6th street raise?
 
It's either spew or FPS. I think the hand should have ended 4th.

TomBrooks 12-28-2006 09:22 AM

Re: 1/2 8/b: How\'s my 6th street raise?
 
4th: I think I'd check that bad card on 4th. I don't think it's going to scare either of those other boards into folding.

5th: I don't think pairing the 5 for high compensates how bad it is towards your low. The other 2 5s are dead so no chance of trips. Looks like a fold to me here.

6th: I don't get the raise. You can't beat the boards for high and you have to hit perfect to only maybe win the low. Seat 4 is showing a possible better low than you.

River: I like the Check. Seat 1 might have a better two pair. He seemed to be going for low and didn't seem to make it so he might have paired a hole card and would thus have sevens over something which beats your 5s over 3s.

Alchemist 12-28-2006 04:52 PM

Re: 1/2 8/b: How\'s my 6th street raise?
 
With your action on 3rd and esp 4th, you're repping a high hand, maybe pocket AA or something (who else would bet xx49 into two hands showing two babies?). Seat 3's raise on 4th could mean a number of things. He could be going high maybe with 75 or 77 in the hole. Or he could have 46 or 68 or may be just trying to get rid of the other low draw.

I don't like the bet on 4th, but if you're making a move, fine. It got thrown back right back at you and I think you have to really re-evaluate where you stand. I might call the raise hoping to catch an A, 2 or 6 on 5th because that's the only realistic way you can salvage the hand. You also having to worry about Seat 4 who called 2 bets on 4th showing 25. Yuck.

Villain's bet on 5th is very strange. He's saying he's not worried about Seat 4 catching the case 4, which couldn't have paired him. I might put him on trip 7s at this point (which of course doesn't make sense considering his action on later streets). At any rate, all you have is a crappy pair of Fives and still need TWO cards to make a low. Time to get out.

Ok you caught good on 6th but you still don't have a hand with only one card to come. Do you really think you're folding Seat 3 here? Be glad you can see the river for just one more bet.

getfunky 12-28-2006 05:39 PM

Re: 1/2 8/b: How\'s my 6th street raise?
 
keep in mind it's 1/2, where playing solidly on all streets will take the money - there's little gained and a lot lost when trying to represent hands you don't have, as you will need to show down hands on the river almost all the time -- when I play 2/4 i get action when i raise 4th and end up on 5th st. with 345 suited and my opponents have a lonely pair of tens- just wait for strong hands to develop and never worry about slow playing or bluffing.

TheSalche 12-28-2006 06:29 PM

Re: 1/2 8/b: How\'s my 6th street raise?
 
Yikes didn't realize how badly I played this hand =/.

Thanks for the tips guys ... I'm folding 4th/5th here next time for shizzle

Alchemist 12-28-2006 08:32 PM

Re: 1/2 8/b: How\'s my 6th street raise?
 
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm curious what the two villains actually had.

Andy B 12-29-2006 02:12 AM

Re: 1/2 8/b: How\'s my 6th street raise?
 
Egads. The raise on third is fine. On fourth, you've caught bad and the other two players have caught good. This is definitely a check. I would probably call one bet, but folding probably wouldn't be a bad idea. By fifth street, your hand has turned into crap. This is a fold. On sixth, you've regained hope. What the hell is the raise for? Do you imagine that someone is folding? Do you really believe that the Deuce is coming? You played the river very well.


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