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Performify 12-18-2006 12:20 PM

Sklansky\'s Fighting Thread
 
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...Number=8252610


Sklansky puts forward the following question:

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In a fight to the death with no gloves inside an enclosure, rate the chances of these five:

World's best boxer

World's best karate and or other Asian martial arts.

World's most elite Navy Seal as far as hand to hand combat is concerned.

World's best real streetfighter from a gang or whatever.

World's best ultimate fighting champion

Assume fairly equal weights of course

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And much hilarity ensues...

BCPVP 12-18-2006 05:21 PM

Re: Sklansky\'s Fighting Thread
 
And is still ensuing. Imagine if the Sherdog forum was arguing about how to play a certain hand. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Performify 12-18-2006 06:46 PM

Re: Sklansky\'s Fighting Thread
 
Yeah, its really, really bad.

Sklansky makes an important clarification / conclusion on page 3, that the "best karate / martial arts" should be compared with "best ultimate fighting champion" in to "best MMA fighter" and then that the only real question is "Navy Seal vs Best MMA Fighter" and if the Navy Seal's "killer instinct" gives him an edge over the superior unarmed fighting techniques of the MMA fighter.

whitepotatoe 12-19-2006 02:46 AM

Re: Sklansky\'s Fighting Thread
 
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And is still ensuing. Imagine if the Sherdog forum was arguing about how to play a certain hand. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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lol

A straight beats a flush every time!! It's not even close!

Three pair and not even close

jokerthief 12-19-2006 05:59 PM

Re: Sklansky\'s Fighting Thread
 
Navy Seals know death moves.

DonkeyKongSr 12-19-2006 06:17 PM

Re: Sklansky\'s Fighting Thread
 
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Navy Seals know death moves.

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Rear naked chokes and most other submission moves are death moves, or at the very least, crippling moves. MMA guys just stop before killing people or snapping their opponents arms or legs.

jokerthief 12-19-2006 07:37 PM

Re: Sklansky\'s Fighting Thread
 
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Navy Seals know death moves.

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Rear naked chokes and most other submission moves are death moves, or at the very least, crippling moves. MMA guys just stop before killing people or snapping their opponents arms or legs.

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But Navy Seals know instant death moves which are super secret and indefensible. The government developed this perfect technique because Seals often find themselves out of ammo and one on one with Dim Mak grandmasters.

DonkeyKongSr 12-19-2006 09:09 PM

Re: Sklansky\'s Fighting Thread
 
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Navy Seals know death moves.

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Rear naked chokes and most other submission moves are death moves, or at the very least, crippling moves. MMA guys just stop before killing people or snapping their opponents arms or legs.

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But Navy Seals know instant death moves which are super secret and indefensible. The government developed this perfect technique because Seals often find themselves out of ammo and one on one with Dim Mak grandmasters.

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LOL. I seriously think everyone picking Navy Seals or martial artists are basing their choices 95% on movies and/or video games. MMA guys are the only guys in that whole group listed that train in disabling an opponent on a near daily basis and actually fight against qulaity competition in the most real life scenario on a regular basis (streetfighter/gangbanger may win for most real life death matches though, but his competition isn't world class). Fedor has beaten the best fighters in the world 24 times. I don't think a Navy Seal has executed these death blows in real life scenarios even close to 24 times.

DonkeyKongSr 12-19-2006 09:12 PM

Re: Sklansky\'s Fighting Thread
 
Oh, I put the boxer last. His skillset is so limited that he has no clue how to defend anything other than a punch. Mike Tyson in his prime has probably one shot to beat even the best streetfighter. He misses that punch, the streetfighter will tear him apart.

goodsamaritan 12-20-2006 05:07 AM

Re: Sklansky\'s Fighting Thread
 
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Oh, I put the boxer last. His skillset is so limited that he has no clue how to defend anything other than a punch. Mike Tyson in his prime has probably one shot to beat even the best streetfighter. He misses that punch, the streetfighter will tear him apart.

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No streetfighter in the world without some serious wrestling or grappling experience would beat Mike Tyson in his prime. And I really doubt there are many street fighters with that type of experience. And btw, what do you think Mike Tyson was before he was a boxer....


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