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Mench 12-03-2006 12:52 AM

400NL Full Ring - I river a Boat and villain shoves for 2.5buyins?
 
I am a 6 max player. I decided to play some full ring tonight. Villain is a regular as far as I can tell. He is on all my tables. We have not played a pot yet. I have seen him play one big pot where he raised to 16, got reraised to 44, and CR the PFR from 56 to 188 on a T74r flop.

I believe him to be a set miner, as he is running at 15-6 over all my tables.

I didn't bet the flop because of the shorty and the texture of the board given villains likely limp/call range.

I DEFINATLY should have raised the turn but was 9 tabling and hit call by accident.

Now we get to the river and I am thinking about how much to value raise, and he open pushes 900 into 100.

http://www.pokerhand.org/?646074



PLEASE ADVISE

DaBusiness 12-03-2006 01:06 AM

Re: 400NL Full Ring - I river a Boat and villain shoves for 2.5buyins?
 
I don't think i can fold that... if he's got quads or tens i guess thats tough.

Mench 12-03-2006 01:09 AM

Re: 400NL Full Ring - I river a Boat and villain shoves for 2.5buyins?
 
I was thinking more about this.

Combinations he should have:

Probably 44, 77, TT, 78s is what I can come up with, since he is a 15-6 and had not raised nearly anything this session. When he did we saw AA and AK I believe.

44 has 3 combos, TT has 3 combos, 77 has 1 combo, 78s has 1 combo, and I cant think of too much else a 15-6 limps.

DaBusiness 12-03-2006 01:11 AM

Re: 400NL Full Ring - I river a Boat and villain shoves for 2.5buyins?
 
56

Kilillan 12-03-2006 01:12 AM

Re: 400NL Full Ring - I river a Boat and villain shoves for 2.5buyins?
 
raise the turn

Big_Jim 12-03-2006 01:14 AM

Re: 400NL Full Ring - I river a Boat and villain shoves for 2.5buyins?
 
Raise the turn.

I couldn't get my money in fast enough, on the river.

This is a misclick WAY more often than a value shove.

Mench 12-03-2006 01:16 AM

Re: 400NL Full Ring - I river a Boat and villain shoves for 2.5buyins?
 
do you think a 15-6 nit limp calls with 56 in early position? your reply is worthless, as you provide no reasoing or math and simply a random hand a nit doesnt have.

DaBusiness 12-03-2006 01:19 AM

Re: 400NL Full Ring - I river a Boat and villain shoves for 2.5buyins?
 
[ QUOTE ]
do you think a 15-6 nit limp calls with 56 in early position? your reply is worthless, as you provide no reasoing or math and simply a random hand a nit doesnt have.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well if he limps with 78s then he probably limps with 56s. As for providing math.... what are you kidding???? oh, and next time remind me not to bother replying to one of your posts.

Mench 12-03-2006 01:22 AM

Re: 400NL Full Ring - I river a Boat and villain shoves for 2.5buyins?
 
I dont think a nit villain limps 78 or 56. I suggested 78 simply for variety? Yes, as a corollary I understand that 56 and 78 are similar and would be limped with equal frequency probably.

Big JIM, does the stars software lend itself to all in misclicks. I dont think villain has a script as his bets have not been methodical or anything that would make me think otheriwse.


I should have amde the turn 125 and played from there. As I said I misclicked and was going to value raise the river until he shoved for me.

Big_Jim 12-03-2006 01:24 AM

Re: 400NL Full Ring - I river a Boat and villain shoves for 2.5buyins?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Big JIM, does the stars software lend itself to all in misclicks.

[/ QUOTE ]
No idea.

No way I'm foldin' though. If he has it, hats off to him.


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