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DP388 12-01-2006 09:23 PM

QQ with K on board against a tricky villian
 
This was a 20/180. Villian seemed to be on the borderline between noob and smart player. He didn't seem to overvalue or call raises with dominated hands like QJ, etc. but who knows if I just didn't see those get shown down. Villian was also tricky in that he would sometimes slow play/trap.

Villian had made the following previous plays:

1. During the first orbit, he re-raised utg +1 with 52os. Ended up flopping a straight in a 3 way pot and got an overpair to donate his stack. Based on how he played after this, I think he was just making a maniac play early for image.

2. At 15/30 he called a raise from CO on the button with 33, I called with 88 in the BB. K high flop and it checks around on flop. Turn is a rag and he floats a c-bet from CO. I suspect he's floating and I call as well. River checks around and I win the pot.

3. At 25/50, 4 limpers and he makes it 150 with AA on the button, gets 3 callers and he checks behind on a K high flop and stacks someone on the turn.

So here's the hand:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero (t1890)
UTG+1 (t5777)
MP1 (t2300)
MP2 (t2095)
MP3 (t2845)
CO (t1525)
Button (t2775)
SB (t5490)
BB (t1255)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, UTG+1 calls t150, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls t150, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (t525) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Hero?

I sometimes will check here in a 3-way pot, but felt that cut off was weak so I played as if I was heads up with villian. Standard?

<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t300</font>, UTG+1 calls t300, CO folds.

Hmmm...I'm not sure what to make of his call here on this board. He could easily be floating with 55-TT, has a set (33,44), KJ, KQ or maybe even AK.

Turn: (t1125) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Hero?

With my stack, can I effectively bet here? Do I want a call with a weaker pair? Can I get a marginal King to fold? Do I risk he's calling down with a king or trapping with AK or a set? 99 also fits his floating range.

Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t850</font>,

Hero ?

Bakes 12-01-2006 09:44 PM

Re: QQ with K on board against a tricky villian
 
points 1 2 3 suggest to me that he just sucks the big fat dick, not that he's tricky, he is just terrible.

DP388 12-01-2006 09:56 PM

Re: QQ with K on board against a tricky villian
 
[ QUOTE ]
points 1 2 3 suggest to me that he just sucks the big fat dick, not that he's tricky, he is just terrible.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, didn't mean to give the impression that tricky = good.

DP388 12-01-2006 10:00 PM

Re: QQ with K on board against a tricky villian
 
[ QUOTE ]
Villian seemed to be on the borderline between noob and smart player.

[/ QUOTE ]

Can't edit post...okay, he doesn't look smart based on these plays obv. These were the plays that made me think he was a noob. He had a couple other plays that seemed good, but he could have just lucked into them and he didn't know what he was doing.


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