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lacrymosa 11-27-2006 12:43 AM

2 pair on monotone flop. Value on river?
 
This guy was a complete donkey. His stats were 79/25/1. I wasn't sure what his UTG range would be, but I guess two clubs, or NFD was definitely in his range. Is there any value betting the river? I figured the only thing that would call me is a flush, and maybe Ax. And do we raise the flop? I think I might have missed out on lots of value in this hand.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.02/$0.05
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $0.2</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($0.47, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $0.3</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1.07, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $0.45</font>, Hero calls.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1.97, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero ?

thac 11-27-2006 12:48 AM

Re: 2 pair on monotone flop. Value on river?
 
I would raise the flop to a dollar probably. You get value out of a lone K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and your hand only has 4 outs to improve. May as well get money in now while you're good (before a 4th club comes)

As played, I bet 1.20 on the river and expect to be ahead a lot of the time.

Panthro 11-27-2006 12:52 AM

Re: 2 pair on monotone flop. Value on river?
 
Flop call is fine, but I raise the turn for value. You'll see a naked club or a weaker ace here often.

As played, value bet ze river.

Hail Eris 11-27-2006 12:55 AM

Re: 2 pair on monotone flop. Value on river?
 
Find a raise somewhere. Flop is probably best.

Value bet river for sure.

Disconnected 11-27-2006 01:11 AM

Re: 2 pair on monotone flop. Value on river?
 
I don't think a made flush donks the flop, but a single club calls, so I raise the flop. When he checks the river, I think you miss a lot of value not betting. Obviously a flush calls you, but I think you get calls from enough other hands as well, and a flush probably doesn't check the river, either.

pdoran10 11-27-2006 01:37 AM

Re: 2 pair on monotone flop. Value on river?
 
yeah value bet river and think about raising this turn especailly after he makes such a smallish bet.


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