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arcticfox 02-02-2006 06:29 AM

Two consecutive hands with the same villain:
 
This is the first hand, which I think is fairly standard:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) converter

SB ($37.30)
BB ($19.45)
UTG ($23.65)
MP ($121.85)
Hero ($64.35)
Button ($42.40)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, Button calls $1.50, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: ($5.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, Button calls $3.

River: ($11.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $13</font>, Hero calls $9.

Final Pot: $37.50

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Kc Jc (flush, king high).
Button has Kd Ts (one pair, tens).
Outcome: Hero wins $37.50. </font>

The very next hand, what do you do on the turn?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) converter

Button ($36.80)
SB ($18.95)
BB ($23.15)
UTG ($121.85)
Hero ($82.05)
CO ($24.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, CO calls $2, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($4.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.5</font>, CO calls $3.50.

Turn: ($11.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $18.9</font>

Hero???

Jack10 02-02-2006 06:47 AM

Re: Two consecutive hands with the same villain:
 
Hand 1: Bet more on every street, especially the turn. A bet of $5-6 charges Villain to draw with the Ac, and also does not allow him to take you off of a hand like two pair or a set; it looks like you are protecting a good but not great hand.

Hand 2: I'm stubborn but I insta-push. He just showed you that he will represent the nuts when a scare card comes. Plus he's probably tilting, and probably doesn't put you on an overpair. You are ahead here almost always IMO. If he's got a ten or better, so be it.

Just my humble opinion.

Jamougha 02-02-2006 08:02 AM

Re: Two consecutive hands with the same villain:
 
Oooh... this is a real he knows-I know-he knows sort of thing.

I think I give him credit here. He plausibly had TP and he's playing it the same way as a bluff a few hands earlier. OTOH he may just be blindly pouncing on weakness... but I don't think so.

H1, why no raise preflop? I would have tried to isolate UTG. I also like betting this a little harder on the flop, maybe that's just a question of styles.

lorez 02-02-2006 01:45 PM

Re: Two consecutive hands with the same villain:
 
[ QUOTE ]

Hand 2: I'm stubborn but I insta-push. He just showed you that he will represent the nuts when a scare card comes. Plus he's probably tilting, and probably doesn't put you on an overpair. You are ahead here almost always IMO. If he's got a ten or better, so be it.

[/ QUOTE ]

He's unlikely to have the ten and is probably semi bluffing with the flush. If he had the overpair I'd of expected action preflop or on the flop. Also, if he had the ten then I would of expected some kind of bet on the flop to try and see what you've got or to charge you for drawing to the flush. If it was me I'd just call, the pot odds are worth it, you are getting 3 - 1 odds on the call.


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