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degenrat 11-17-2006 06:53 PM

made a new friend through \"terrible play\"
 
Thoughts?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.125/$0.25
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $13
UTG+1: $5.50
MP1: $58.85
MP2: $14.15
MP3: $14.25
CO: $23.35
Button: $13.20
SB: $0
Hero: $32.15

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with http://www.neildewhurst.com/wp-conte...c-cards/6h.png http://www.neildewhurst.com/wp-conte...c-cards/8d.png
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $0.5</font>, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP3 calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: http://www.neildewhurst.com/wp-conte...c-cards/5d.png http://www.neildewhurst.com/wp-conte...c-cards/7c.png http://www.neildewhurst.com/wp-conte...c-cards/tc.png ($7.13, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $10</font>, Hero calls.
Final pot: $27.125

degenrat 11-17-2006 06:56 PM

Re: made a new friend through \"terrible play\"
 
the min raise had been happening repeatedly. the multiple callers as well. the y had folded to a reraise from another opponent before. i wanted to take the pot dow preflop or with a standard cbet. i was callign his push, if he pushed no matter what.

whaddya think?

deception5 11-17-2006 07:18 PM

Re: made a new friend through \"terrible play\"
 
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the min raise had been happening repeatedly. the multiple callers as well. the y had folded to a reraise from another opponent before. i wanted to take the pot dow preflop or with a standard cbet. i was callign his push, if he pushed no matter what.

whaddya think?

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I don't really see the point... just call preflop and hope to hit a good flop with tons of people in.

Sean Fraley 11-17-2006 10:49 PM

Re: made a new friend through \"terrible play\"
 
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I don't really see the point... just call preflop and hope to hit a good flop with tons of people in.

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I agree. From what I've seen, a minraise in the micros can easily be a new and/or bad player who never got any instruction on how to raise preflop. The guy could have the rockets and minraise just because that's the amount the raise button has on it. Add to this the fact that you had seen him do it multiple times before, and this becomes an even more likely scenario. Just take advantage of the fact that these people don't price out your 98s on the button that is going to flop a combo draw by putting in a 4x+1x for every limper raise when they have JJ in MP1.

orange 11-17-2006 11:05 PM

Re: made a new friend through \"terrible play\"
 
rr pf is bad given stack sizes.

Sir Winalot 11-18-2006 06:46 AM

Re: made a new friend through \"terrible play\"
 
lol @ preflop. I think this sucks big time. And why are you calling the flop raise without odds?

carnivalhobo 11-18-2006 06:48 AM

Re: made a new friend through \"terrible play\"
 
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lol @ preflop. I think this sucks big time. And why are you calling the flop raise without odds?

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hes getting over 4:1

Sir Winalot 11-18-2006 07:02 AM

Re: made a new friend through \"terrible play\"
 
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lol @ preflop. I think this sucks big time. And why are you calling the flop raise without odds?

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hes getting over 4:1

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Whoopsie, I somehow saw him with a gutshot. Pardon me, the call is fine with an OESD.

degenrat 11-18-2006 07:27 AM

Re: made a new friend through \"terrible play\"
 
orange, i agree with your point 100%. i overlooked my opp's stack size.

kokiri 11-18-2006 08:13 AM

Re: made a new friend through \"terrible play\"
 
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lol @ preflop. I think this sucks big time. And why are you calling the flop raise without odds?

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hes getting over 4:1

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Whoopsie, I somehow saw him with a gutshot. Pardon me, the call is fine with an OESD.

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so...given you're calling the push, is it better to push $10 into a $7 pot in the flop?


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