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bmxreed36 11-03-2006 10:00 PM

Da river check-raise bluff
 
Stars $30+3, villian hasn't done anything worth catching my attention so far, just a little loose preflop.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t3125)
MP3 (t1595)
CO (t5595)
Button (t5015)
SB (t11390)
BB (t1855)
UTG (t4215)
UTG+1 (t2335)
Hero (t4195)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t600</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t600, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t400.

Flop: (t1900) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: (t1900) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

River: (t1900) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t1200</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t3595</font>

Howboutit?

mattmcegg 11-03-2006 10:05 PM

Re: Da river check-raise bluff
 
Why do this? I think its pretty bad and hes going to call you with his pair. The way you played it doesnt put you on a set of Jacks, or even a pair of Kings.

Cornell Fiji 11-03-2006 10:08 PM

Re: Da river check-raise bluff
 
I hate it

Bakes 11-03-2006 10:10 PM

Re: Da river check-raise bluff
 
However, I think a lot of Villains won't show up with either a K or a J here and are on a pure steal, and won't make big calls with an underpair or A9 or something, I don't really mind it so much against someone who you can count to be firing the river with a weak hand a lot of the time.

All you who hate the play would never call him with TT or A9, thats for sure.

Superfluous Man 11-03-2006 10:12 PM

Re: Da river check-raise bluff
 
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All you who hate the play would never call him with TT or A9, thats for sure.

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Getting almost 3:1 on the river? Really?

Anyway, why not just like, c-bet the flop? Or bet the turn and rep AK?

mlagoo 11-03-2006 10:15 PM

Re: Da river check-raise bluff
 
this looks like the old "i'm tired of playing in this particular tournament" play

bmxreed36 11-03-2006 10:22 PM

Re: Da river check-raise bluff
 
I'd C-bet every raise of mine so far and figured with this flop against two opponents, slowing down was a good idea.

FWIW, I realize (and did at the time) that I'm pretty much representing nothing, but I still think it's a good play.

Colombo 11-03-2006 10:23 PM

Re: Da river check-raise bluff
 
When bluffing, you should ask yourself what you are trying to represent.

Would you play like this with any logical holding?

mattmcegg 11-03-2006 10:29 PM

Re: Da river check-raise bluff
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'd C-bet every raise of mine so far and figured with this flop against two opponents, slowing down was a good idea.

FWIW, I realize (and did at the time) that I'm pretty much representing nothing, but I still think it's a good play.

[/ QUOTE ]

Honestly, just looking at pot equity and what hes NOT folding given his pot odds, it just isnt a EV move.

Bakes 11-03-2006 10:37 PM

Re: Da river check-raise bluff
 
Reasonable range for villain? There's all this talk about what he's not folding but what does he have? I'd say all J's and K's are out.


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