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mozz 10-23-2006 06:37 AM

wait for safe turn with nutstraight?
 
lately i have found myself being outdrawn after playing the nuts fast as in the following hand. a friend of mine is of the opinion that one should wait for a safe turn card before pushing as even if you have nuts now, your hand is still very vunerable to redraws.. thoughts on this?

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
9 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Hero calls, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($6, 6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $3</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $6</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $17</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $46</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $59.7</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($128.4, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $128.4)


River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($128.4, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $128.4)


Results:
Final pot: $128.4

carnivalhobo 10-23-2006 06:39 AM

Re: wait for safe turn with nutstraight?
 
screw that, there are a ton of turn scare cards and there are many that lose you action too. hands like these are why we have bankrolls.

The Velour Fog 10-23-2006 06:45 AM

Re: wait for safe turn with nutstraight?
 
dont let beats scare you from getting the money in when you have the best of it.. your friend is wrong

snakekilla88 10-23-2006 06:46 AM

Re: wait for safe turn with nutstraight?
 
here are my thoughts-
tell your friend to STFU

Womble 10-23-2006 06:47 AM

Re: wait for safe turn with nutstraight?
 
Raise more on the flop - say $22

terp 10-23-2006 07:01 AM

Re: wait for safe turn with nutstraight?
 
lol this isn't limit and you don't know which of the 20 potentially scary cards are actually scary or will just kill your action. POOOOSH

gimmetheloot 10-23-2006 07:14 AM

Re: wait for safe turn with nutstraight?
 
Dude, dont listen to these guys.

My philosophy is to check the flop and the turn, and if you still have the nuts on the river, open push. If not, c/c.

I cant begin to tell you how many times my stack has been saved playing like this.

JackAll 10-23-2006 07:15 AM

Re: wait for safe turn with nutstraight?
 
Nice hand.

Your friend is a [censored].

JackAll 10-23-2006 07:16 AM

Re: wait for safe turn with nutstraight?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Nice hand.

Your friend is a [censored].

[/ QUOTE ]

WTF? [censored] is a banned word??

Slap My Jack 10-23-2006 08:00 AM

Re: wait for safe turn with nutstraight?
 
You're not playing PLO. Push it in, biatch.


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