Should I have seen 5th? 2/4 stud hi
 

I believe with a dead Q and very live clubs this is worth a call. Also villain bet the minimum on 4th as well... I assume capping 6th and taking the free showdown when I don't boat is fairly common.

HORSE - 7 Card Stud High ($2/$4), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $1 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.00 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 2: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 4: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 8: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises___calls

4th Street - (7.50 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets

5th Street - (5.25 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls $1.75 and is all-in
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets

6th Street - (7.69 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___all-in
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises___raises
Seat 8: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___raises___calls

River - (15.69 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx___all-in
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks
Seat 8: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___checks

Total pot: (15.69 BB)

Re: Should I have seen 5th? 2/4 stud hi
 

Raise 5th so you can cap when he 3-bets.

Re: Should I have seen 5th? 2/4 stud hi
 

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Raise 5th so you can cap when he 3-bets.

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I figured by raising 6th he was less likely to realize I had trip aces and would 3bet. Maybe I outthought this though...

Re: Should I have seen 5th? 2/4 stud hi
 

I think that fourth is still a fold. Given the cards that are out, he can have:

Trip Queens--37 ways
Aces-up--1 way
Kings-up--6 ways
Queens and Jacks--6 ways
Queens and Tens--3 ways

You're losing to all of these, and the trips have you crushed. For him to have something else, he would have to have raised first-in with a three-flush with two diamonds gone or something like KQJ with a Ten and a Nine gone. If the other guy is a maniac, sure, continue, but mention that in the original post.

Checking the river might be common, but betting is better.

Re: Should I have seen 5th? 2/4 stud hi
 

raising 5th or 6th is fine, 5th may be a little better cause a really scared player may think you have 89 in the hole

i like betting the river when checked to, i think hed bet with a boat given how aggressive he was earlier

Re: Should I have seen 5th? 2/4 stud hi
 

What they said, but I'm weighing in on raising 5th rather than 6th.

Re: Should I have seen 5th? 2/4 stud hi
 

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If the other guy is a maniac, sure, continue, but mention that in the original post.

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Well after this hand he did go on crazy monkey tilt. This hand probably helped as well...

HORSE - 7 Card Stud High-Low ($2/$4), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $1 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.00 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises___calls___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises___raises
Seat 5: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises___calls

4th Street - (17.00 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___folds
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls___raises
Seat 4: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets___raises___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises___calls___calls

5th Street - (14.50 BB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises___raises
Seat 4: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___raises___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls___calls

6th Street - (26.50 BB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises___raises
Seat 4: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___raises___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls___calls

River - (38.50 BB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises___raises
Seat 4: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___bets___raises___calls $2.75 and is all-in
Seat 8: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___calls___calls___calls

Total pot: (50.19 BB)

Results (in white):<font color="white">

Total pot $200.75 Main pot $195.25. Side pot $2.50. | Rake $3

Hero: [Ad 6d 4h 3d 8d 9c Jc] (HI: high card Ace; LO: 8,6,4,3,A)

Seat 4: [5c 5s 5h Jd Jh 2c Js] (HI: a full house, Jacks full of Fives)

Seat 8: [Qc Kc 9s Qd 3s 3h 6c] (HI: two pair, Queens and Threes)

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Hello,Andy! Had Bremen bet out on river and....
 

Oppo. checked-raised,would u have called the check-raised?
Just wondering--Hmmm [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
SittingBull

Re: Hello,Andy! Had Bremen bet out on river and....
 

Absolutely. Calling is what I do best.

Andy,when an oppo. on 7th Str. check-raises ....
 

a better, he/she is usually expecting original better to call. The caller USUALLY loses to the chek-raiser.
However,I realize that even if U are in error by calling a large % of the time,u will most likely still show a long-term profit by calling--giving the size of the pot.
The deciding factor on whether to call or not is a function of UR Oppo.'s playing style. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
HappyPokering,
SittingBull