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HiddenOuts 10-12-2006 08:11 AM

Clearing Bonuses with Roulette instead of BJ
 
How much EV do you lose by clearing a bonus with Roulette instead of BJ? I never really played BJ before (well not according to "proper" strategy at least) so I think it would potentially be worth it to just play something like roulette instead if I wasn't sacraficing very much EV. So is it ok to clear via roulette, or some other super easy game that I don't have to pay too much attention to?

RikaKazak 10-12-2006 09:10 AM

Re: Clearing Bonuses with Roulette instead of BJ
 
most places don't count roullette betting as wagering requirements for casino bonuses (actually, I think all don't)

playersare 10-12-2006 09:36 AM

Re: Clearing Bonuses with Roulette instead of BJ
 
most casinos don't allow roulette for bonus clearing. even if they do, you are losing A LOT of EV vs. blackjack, to the point where the bonus becomes mathematically worthless.

1huskerfan 10-12-2006 11:10 AM

Re: Clearing Bonuses with Roulette instead of BJ
 
Many casinos do not allow roullette because whores will bet both red and black to clear the bonus faster. This does not change the EV of the bonus and some have software that will not allow these types of wagers.

The blanket statement that roullette is -EV couldn't be more wrong. Once you get down to the smaller Casinos, they only count certain games as a % of your WR. If BJ counts 10% and Roullette counts 50%, which is the case in many I have whored recently, the EV(BJ)<EV(Roullette).

he HA on French roullette is 1.35%, while the HA is about .6%. SInce the HA on roullette is less than 5x the HA on BJ, roullette is greater EV because of the inflated WR when playing BJ.

ImsaKidd 10-12-2006 11:35 AM

Re: Clearing Bonuses with Roulette instead of BJ
 
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Many casinos do not allow roullette because whores will bet both red and black to clear the bonus faster. This does not change the EV of the bonus and some have software that will not allow these types of wagers.



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Back when casinos had 10x bonuses, people did roulette (even though Bj was better).

I think the big casinos make a big mistake in disallowing roulette. They could give a 25x bonus and allow people to do red/black on American Roulette (making the bonus -EV). Lots of so-called "bonus abusers" (like OP) would do the bonus and lose $$, so the casino profits. Additionally, us whores can snatch up all the 25x bonuses [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

MadMat 10-12-2006 11:49 AM

Re: Clearing Bonuses with Roulette instead of BJ
 
I wouldn't worry about it too much, with all the publicity these bonuses are getting it's not going to be long before the microgaming casinos start moving french roulette into the 10% list [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Mat

Thremp 10-12-2006 11:57 AM

Re: Clearing Bonuses with Roulette instead of BJ
 
Yeah. They're thin EV anyway.

1huskerfan 10-12-2006 11:59 AM

Re: Clearing Bonuses with Roulette instead of BJ
 
Thin EV if you grind out the bonus. Most of them you can cash out winnings. Play one hand, double up with their money, press it and cashout. Getting 5:1 on a Baccarrat bet is +EV.

Ken_AA 10-12-2006 12:24 PM

Re: Clearing Bonuses with Roulette instead of BJ
 
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Yeah. They're thin EV anyway.

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But they are sooooo much more fun then grinding bonuses!!!!

(and When I mean grinding bonuses, I mean betting 10 to 25 per hand on BJ)

Ken

HiddenOuts 10-12-2006 12:45 PM

Re: Clearing Bonuses with Roulette instead of BJ
 
Oh I didn't realize roulette was so -EV, I just started playing french roulette to clear some of the bonuses that have been posted here. Well I guess I will stick to BJ and baccarat then.


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