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stickdude 09-21-2006 12:04 PM

Top pair facing raise and re-raise. ($2/$4)
 
Early on in the session, but table has seemed on the aggressive side so far. Is this an easy fold?

GAME #xxxxxxxxxx: Texas Hold'em Limit $2/$4 2006-09-21 11:52:25
Table xxxxxxx (6 max)
Seat 1: Villian 1 ($259.00 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero ($236.00 in chips)
Seat 5: xxxxxx ($277.75 in chips)
Seat 6: xxxxxx ($78.85 in chips)
Seat 8: xxxxxx ($142.23 in chips)
Seat 10: Villian 2 ($95.61 in chips) DEALER
Villian 1: Post SB $1.00
Hero: Post BB $2.00
xxxxxx: Post BB $2.00
xxxxxx: Post BB $3.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
xxxxxx: Fold
xxxxxx: Check
Villian 1: Check
Villian 2: Call $2.00
xxxxxx: Call $1.00
Hero: Check
*** FLOP *** [5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
xxxxxx: Check
Hero: Bet $2.00
xxxxxx: Call $2.00
Villian 1: Raise $4.00
Villian 2: Raise $6.00
xxxxxx: Fold
Hero: ??????

KingOtter 09-21-2006 12:15 PM

Re: Top pair facing raise and re-raise. ($2/$4)
 
In general I don't put people on monsters when they raise the flop. Sets and 2-pair seem to wait for the turn to raise you. But since you don't really have any redraws against those and a rather weak kicker, it's pretty easy to let this one go. KJ/AJ I'd call down.

Edit: Also, use a converter.

stickdude 09-21-2006 12:24 PM

Re: Top pair facing raise and re-raise. ($2/$4)
 
[ QUOTE ]
Edit: Also, use a converter.

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Um, ok...

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This is not a recognized hand history format.

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It's from a site that just recently got PT support - the hand converters haven't added it yet.

biendover 09-21-2006 01:07 PM

Re: Top pair facing raise and re-raise. ($2/$4)
 
Small pot. Let it go. You have a weak kicker. You mentioned that table has been on aggressive side...well then why did the button open limp? Kinda fishy.

Although villains may be raising with an assortment of draws, you're up againts numerous hands than can beat you given the action. 55, 66, Any jack has you beat w/their kicker etc.

bobhalford 09-21-2006 01:38 PM

Re: Top pair facing raise and re-raise. ($2/$4)
 
I would fold with a frown.

You can just type out the hand yourself without a converter to make it look better. You will get more responses when the hand is easy to read.

stickdude 09-21-2006 01:56 PM

Re: Top pair facing raise and re-raise. ($2/$4)
 
Yeah, I reluctantly folded. Turns out I was up against QJ and J6, so I had the 3rd best hand after all.

I could just write a converter for this format... If I weren't spending my free time playing poker, that is. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

KingOtter 09-21-2006 02:12 PM

Re: Top pair facing raise and re-raise. ($2/$4)
 
Oh, thought it looked like a standard format... =)

stickdude 09-21-2006 02:35 PM

Re: Top pair facing raise and re-raise. ($2/$4)
 
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Oh, thought it looked like a standard format... =)

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PT actually converts it from XML to the standard-looking format, and I hand-edited it somewhat from there. Here's the raw hand history (with sn's masked out):

<game gamecode="xxxxxxxxxxx">
<general>
<startdate>2006-09-21 11:52:25</startdate>
<players>
<player seat="1" name="xxxxxx" chips="$259" dealer="0" win="$0" bet="$2" /><player seat="3" name="xxxxxx" chips="$236" dealer="0" win="$0" bet="$4" /><player seat="5" name="xxxxxx" chips="$277.75" dealer="0" win="$0" bet="$0" /><player seat="6" name="xxxxxx" chips="$78.85" dealer="0" win="$0" bet="$12" /><player seat="8" name="xxxxxx" chips="$142.23" dealer="0" win="$48.50" bet="$17" /><player seat="10" name="xxxxxx" chips="$95.61" dealer="1" win="$0" bet="$16" />
</players>
</general>
<round no="0">
<action no="1" player="xxxxxx" type="1" sum="$1"/><action no="2" player="xxxxxx" type="2" sum="$2"/><action no="3" player="xxxxxx" type="2" sum="$2"/><action no="4" player="xxxxxx" type="2" sum="$3"/>
</round>
<round no="1">
<cards type="Pocket" player="xxxxxx">X X</cards><action no="9" player="xxxxxx" type="3" sum="$1"/><cards type="Pocket" player="xxxxxx">CJ H9</cards><action no="10" player="xxxxxx" type="4" sum="$0"/><cards type="Pocket" player="xxxxxx">X X</cards><action no="5" player="xxxxxx" type="0" sum="$0"/><cards type="Pocket" player="xxxxxx">X X</cards><action no="6" player="xxxxxx" type="4" sum="$0"/><cards type="Pocket" player="xxxxxx">HJ C6</cards><action no="7" player="xxxxxx" type="4" sum="$0"/><cards type="Pocket" player="xxxxxx">HQ SJ</cards><action no="8" player="xxxxxx" type="3" sum="$2"/>
</round>
<round no="2">
<cards type="Flop" player="">H5 DJ H6</cards><action no="11" player="xxxxxx" type="4" sum="$0"/><action no="16" player="xxxxxx" type="0" sum="$0"/><action no="12" player="xxxxxx" type="5" sum="$2"/><action no="17" player="xxxxxx" type="0" sum="$0"/><action no="13" player="xxxxxx" type="3" sum="$2"/><action no="18" player="xxxxxx" type="3" sum="$4"/><action no="14" player="xxxxxx" type="6" sum="$4"/><action no="19" player="xxxxxx" type="3" sum="$2"/><action no="15" player="xxxxxx" type="6" sum="$6"/>
</round>
<round no="3">
<cards type="Turn" player="">D2</cards><action no="20" player="xxxxxx" type="4" sum="$0"/><action no="23" player="xxxxxx" type="3" sum="$4"/><action no="21" player="xxxxxx" type="5" sum="$4"/><action no="22" player="xxxxxx" type="3" sum="$4"/>
</round>
<round no="4">
<cards type="River" player="">D6</cards><action no="24" player="xxxxxx" type="4" sum="$0"/><action no="27" player="xxxxxx" type="0" sum="$0"/><action no="25" player="xxxxxx" type="5" sum="$4"/><action no="26" player="xxxxxx" type="3" sum="$4"/>
</round>

</game>

Flintoff 09-21-2006 03:59 PM

Re: Top pair facing raise and re-raise. ($2/$4)
 
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In general I don't put people on monsters when they raise the flop. Sets and 2-pair seem to wait for the turn to raise you. But since you don't really have any redraws against those and a rather weak kicker, it's pretty easy to let this one go. KJ/AJ I'd call down.

Edit: Also, use a converter.

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I raise that flop all day long with 2 pairs and sets.

In fact I virtually never slowplay.


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