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Jman28 09-16-2006 08:30 AM

holla
 
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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">BB ($2098.68)</font>
UTG ($6134.30)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($2000)</font>
CO ($786.55)
Button ($1716)
SB ($1018)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
BB<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $70</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $50.

Flop: ($150) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $111</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $222</font>, Hero calls $111.

Turn: ($594) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $400</font>, Hero calls $400.

River: ($1394) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Shoves McGee????</font>

Hattifnatt 09-16-2006 08:32 AM

Re: holla
 
3-bet flop or raise turn, as played bet 900 on the river.

AZK 09-16-2006 10:45 AM

Re: holla
 
river shove is pretty sexy

Ansky 09-16-2006 11:14 AM

Re: holla
 
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3-bet flop or raise turn, as played bet 900 on the river.

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I disagree a lot.

I think raising flop and turn are both fine but less +EV options than calling in these spots. If you shove the turn, villain folds way too many hands that you dont want him to imo.
River, I think I do actually prefer a bet of like 800 I think. I tended to shove this river all the time, but my ways have changed quite a bit on the river lately. I think there is a very good chance that villain has a very weak and marginal hand here, I do not see you getting called by a worse hand enough if you shove.

Phresh 09-16-2006 11:21 AM

Re: holla
 
I like value betting $1k on river and I dislike 3-betting flop or raising turn.

raptor517 09-16-2006 02:35 PM

Re: holla
 
think forever and shove, make it look missed flushy, since, after all, u did miss yer flush draw. i like how u played it nice shove, and since u didnt get called, he probably missed HIS flush draw. holla

EmpireMaker2 09-16-2006 03:43 PM

Re: holla
 
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river shove is pretty sexy

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shag 09-16-2006 03:47 PM

Re: holla
 
I don't think villain folds more often enough for a shove on the river to be less +EV than betting like 900 or something... shove it in... I don't mind the smooth calls because you still get enough in the pot to be able to shove on the river.

I play live though... so maybe there is less action online.

tcorbin16 09-16-2006 05:23 PM

Re: holla
 
I like a river shove.

Does anyone think this BB is being sneaky and trying to CR all in here with some monster like 66 or AA?
I know this is situation, villian dependant, but if anyone else was the villian GIVEN how this was played by him do you guys like a river CR shove with some sort of monster?


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