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jdog1999 09-11-2006 07:03 PM

$10 deep stack Saturday - How would you play this flush
 
I loved the way this guy was betting he was giving me perfect odds to draw for my flush. I almost just called the river bet but I decided to raise to see where I stood.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 (t6405)
MP2 (t4605)
MP3 (t11630)
CO (t3375)
Hero (t5295)
SB (t4535)
BB (t5070)
UTG (t15250)
UTG+1 (t9815)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t100</font>, CO calls t100, Hero calls t100, SB calls t75, BB calls t50.

Flop: (t500) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t100</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t200</font>, CO folds, Hero calls t200, SB folds, BB calls t100.

Turn: (t1100) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets t250</font>, Hero calls t250, BB folds.

River: (t1600) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets t400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t800</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t1200</font>, Hero calls t400.

Final Pot: t4000

NeedsMoreNuts 09-11-2006 07:10 PM

Re: $10 deep stack Saturday - How would you play this flush
 
Please put a real raise in on the river.

jdog1999 09-11-2006 07:13 PM

Re: $10 deep stack Saturday - How would you play this flush
 
Heres the question I would like you guys to answer. What hand could he have given his betting pattern?

FortunaMaximus 09-11-2006 07:16 PM

Re: $10 deep stack Saturday - How would you play this flush
 
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Heres the question I would like you guys to answer. What range could he have given his betting pattern?

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FYP.

jdog1999 09-11-2006 07:17 PM

Re: $10 deep stack Saturday - How would you play this flush
 
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Heres the question I would like you guys to answer. What range could he have given his betting pattern?

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FYP.

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You're right I should have said range

Imrahil 09-11-2006 07:18 PM

Re: $10 deep stack Saturday - How would you play this flush
 
Why aren't we pushing this river?

FortunaMaximus 09-11-2006 07:21 PM

Re: $10 deep stack Saturday - How would you play this flush
 
Eh. By river, a couple of small straights, smaller or higher flush, sets, weak aces, two pair. You're not beat nearly enough here, so raising to ~1.2-1.5 should be fine on river.

Edit: Probably 'cause it's a deepstack and we aren't always ahead here, Imrahil. We want to get value, not raise him outta his seat.

Imrahil 09-11-2006 07:43 PM

Re: $10 deep stack Saturday - How would you play this flush
 
Well atleast throw in a couple more min-raises on the river. I think it's worth risking like 800 more here. Also, villain min raised the flop. He seems like he had a good hand on the flop and is continuing this on the river.

EDIT: Oh, what I meant is basically why aren't we raising more on the river, why are we just calling? I don't mean to push on the guy's 400 bet but to try and get all our money in at some point on the river.

FortunaMaximus 09-11-2006 07:55 PM

Re: $10 deep stack Saturday - How would you play this flush
 
Yeah, that'd narrow the range quite a bit based on that read. But he's betting this weakish then minraising OP on river. I'd not discount stronger flushes completely here. Either that or a set probably.

dave6 09-11-2006 07:57 PM

Re: $10 deep stack Saturday - How would you play this flush
 
So his line is:

Preflop: minraise
Flop: minreraise
Turn: bet 1/4 pot
River: bet 1/4 pot/minreraise

How had this guy been playing previously? This looks like a typical donkey line with a monster. If he wasn't doing much preflop raising, I'd say he has AA/AT/TT (AK-AJ wouldn't reraise the flop and KK-JJ wouldn't reraise the river). If he's raising preflop more often, this could easily be a flush -- maybe ace high, maybe not. I doubt it's a straight since the river didn't complete any OESDs.

The less he's been raising preflop, the more inclined I am to get more chips in on the river. If he's playing tight preflop, the only thing I'm really scared of is AdKd.


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