aa vs stupid dinosaur guy
 

so i havent been playing much poker these days, but here's a hand that happened today. pretend you are hero.

background: ok, this table is awesome. there are two uber fish at the table and because of it, alot of people are deep stacked. bb in the hand is one of the fish. he is running 65/10 and is generally awful postflop. he starts the hand with $1050. he does weird, unexplainable thigns. philipsaurus is utg. um, probably running like 35/15 or something. he has $1600. "hero" is the button in this hand. hero is running like, 22/14, and has been 3betting somewhat frequently. none of the prior 3bets have gone to showdown though.

preflop: philipsaurus raises utg to $22. hero has red AA reraises to $80. bb fish cold calls. philipsaurus calls.

flop ($243) is T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] . philipsaurus checks. hero bets $200. bb fish calls $200. philipsaurus raises to $625. hero does what...?

also, what do you do with AcKc?

edit: hero covers both.

Re: aa vs stupid dinosaur guy
 

I fold aces, simply because philipsaurus should know that the fish isn't folding, therefore must have two pair or better.

I haven't decided what to do with AK of clubs, it is decidedly more tricky IMO. Or maybe that's just becuase I like draws.

Re: aa vs stupid dinosaur guy
 

AKcc is ridic easy all in

Re: aa vs stupid dinosaur guy
 

AcKc is a call trying to MAKE SURE you do not scare the fish away. you'll still end up all in, but you're guarenteeing yourself better odds.

Re: aa vs stupid dinosaur guy
 

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AcKc is a call trying to MAKE SURE you do not scare the fish away. you'll still end up all in, but you're guarenteeing yourself better odds.

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That's what I was thinking..

Certainly not thinking about folding it.

Re: aa vs stupid dinosaur guy
 

if only because this spot is marginal and hero covers idiot by lot, who might win this pot and get more chips... hero should fold. it is likely that hero is beat, but this point definitely nails home that it is a fold even more. if the other guy is isolating with a good ten, then good for him, i give him props (you should consider this move, fwiw).

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(you should consider this move, fwiw).

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this IS me, fwiw.

Re: aa vs stupid dinosaur guy
 

oh yeah... well then if you are isolating with a one pair hand, good for you. i will not put in much more money when i'm deep with the donkey if i only have one pair. but i'm also reraising a whole lot more preflop if i know the donkey will call anyways (like to 125) or so to get yuor tricky isolating ass out of there [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Re: aa vs stupid dinosaur guy
 

phil is probably trying to lever you against the fish so you'll both put more chips in... he likely has a set/straight. so with AA here i fold.

if i had AKc, i'd call, expect fish to call, and expect to own both if i got there on the turn.