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tiltaholic 09-05-2006 05:02 PM

nlhe noob with AJs nl100
 
Hi-

NL100 6max game.

I'm sb with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
I open raise to $4 (4x bb)
Unremarkable, loosish bb (stack = 50bb) reraises to $11.
I call $7 (bad?)

Flop J66 rainbow. (pot = $22ish)

I check. He leads $15. I push more than his stack.

Any comments on both streets?

Shaddux 09-05-2006 05:06 PM

Re: nlhe noob with AJs nl100
 
I think pf is okay against a loose player.

Why c/r flop? I think I like leading here better.

tiltaholic 09-05-2006 05:11 PM

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I think pf is okay against a loose player.

Why c/r flop? I think I like leading here better.

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i don't know.
i'm very much playing by feel.
lead pot size? thats about half his remaining stack
if i lead, can i fold to a raise? do i lead a blank turn and fold to a raise? if i make a sizable bet, i feel he's basically pushing. should i care?

thanks for the comments...

epdaws 09-05-2006 05:16 PM

Re: nlhe noob with AJs nl100
 
If he's loosish, this is pretty standard, especially considering how short you're playing.

If you're not playing short, it's more marginal; if you're not playing short and the opponent is not "loosish," dump it preflop like your fifth-grade girlfriend. Don't even leave a note in its locker.

Dan Bitel 09-05-2006 05:31 PM

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I can't see the preflop call being at all good

epdaws 09-05-2006 05:33 PM

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I can't see the preflop call being at all good

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Against a loose player? It might be close, but short-stacked against a loose player, I look to flop top pair and crai here. Standard double up.

tiltaholic 09-05-2006 05:34 PM

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I can't see the preflop call being at all good

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Against a loose player? It might be close, but short-stacked against a loose player, I look to flop top pair and crai here. Standard double up.

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hey epdaws ---

serious, but stupid, question - what are you considering loose here?

Dan Bitel 09-05-2006 05:36 PM

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I can't see the preflop call being at all good

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Against a loose player? It might be close, but short-stacked against a loose player, I look to flop top pair and crai here. Standard double up.

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its 50BB, its not super short.

And just cos he's loose, doesn't mean he's LAG. A lot of loose players have very small rr ranges preflop

epdaws 09-05-2006 05:37 PM

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I can't see the preflop call being at all good

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Against a loose player? It might be close, but short-stacked against a loose player, I look to flop top pair and crai here. Standard double up.

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hey epdaws ---

serious, but stupid, question - what are you considering loose here?

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Not a stupid question at all; in fact, it is precisely what makes answering these posts in an online forum difficult. I have played live against people who will min-re-raise QT. They'll min-raise any pair. They'll MRR Ax. It's very ugly.

A loose player has a wide range here, even with a re-raise. But I might be imagining a player who is more loose than the actual Villain. Who knows.

I can tell you that in a standard situation, I muck AJ to a re-raise every time preflop.

epdaws 09-05-2006 05:39 PM

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I can't see the preflop call being at all good

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Against a loose player? It might be close, but short-stacked against a loose player, I look to flop top pair and crai here. Standard double up.

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its 50BB, its not super short.

And just cos he's loose, doesn't mean he's LAG. A lot of loose players have very small rr ranges preflop

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DB,

I guess my real answer here is that it would really depend on my feel and read of the situation. Being short is a factor here, but it's hard to tell what "loosish" actually means. I agree with you that AJ is usually junk to any raise preflop.


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