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mlagoo 09-05-2006 04:11 PM

1/2, Bluff vs. TAG
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG ($371.15)
UTG+1 ($94.55)
Hero ($472.90)
MP2 ($70.70)
MP3 ($208.70)
CO ($254.90)
Button ($204.25)
SB ($143)
BB ($383.95)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $8, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, UTG calls $16.

Turn: ($51) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $44</font>, UTG calls $44.

River: ($139) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $120</font>.


Meh? No real reads other than that he was 22/15/1.5. Also on the turn he typed into the chatbox

"bro"
"wtf are you betting so much for"

Thoughts?

xorbie 09-05-2006 04:16 PM

Re: 1/2, Bluff vs. TAG
 
he has KK[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or QQ[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or Ax. good luck.

mlagoo 09-05-2006 04:22 PM

Re: 1/2, Bluff vs. TAG
 
[ QUOTE ]
he has KK[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or QQ[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or Ax. good luck.

[/ QUOTE ]

well, yeah.

but don't you feel like he has Ax a lower percentage of the time here -- because don't most Ax's feel the need to protect their hand? Assuming they don't have a diamond, in which event don't they bet for value?

UOPokerPlayer 09-05-2006 04:26 PM

Re: 1/2, Bluff vs. TAG
 
I call utg raises with 77 to flop sets and stack guys with big hands, not to try to push them off those big hands. Just me though.

mlagoo 09-05-2006 04:28 PM

Re: 1/2, Bluff vs. TAG
 
[ QUOTE ]
I call utg raises with 77 to flop sets and stack guys with big hands, not to try to push them off those big hands. Just me though.

[/ QUOTE ]

personally, im trying to learn to play poker. if something is a profitable play then i dont want to miss it.

xorbie 09-05-2006 04:30 PM

Re: 1/2, Bluff vs. TAG
 
mlagoo,

i tihnk he could easily play AJ[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or AQ[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in this fashion. AK[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] even. it certainly has its upsides vs.. say this play you are making right now.

mlagoo 09-05-2006 04:33 PM

Re: 1/2, Bluff vs. TAG
 
yeah, probably a bit of spewage. i really put him squarely on KK/QQ with a diamond though, after his flop check-call, turn check, and thought i could get him to dump it.

after he calls the turn, and the river is an ace, is my river bet terrible, or mandatory, or somewhere in between?

xorbie 09-05-2006 04:49 PM

Re: 1/2, Bluff vs. TAG
 
eh. someone in between. i also think betting less on flop and turn is goot.

Isura 09-06-2006 12:48 AM

Re: 1/2, Bluff vs. TAG
 
Just check it all the way and save the monies. Maybe valuebet if you make a flush.

Case Closed 09-06-2006 12:53 AM

Re: 1/2, Bluff vs. TAG
 
I don't like it. Nothing wrong with going for the steal on the flop, and possibly the turn. The river is a spew IMO. What hand are you trying to represent?


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