200NL JJ overpair
 

Villain is a winning TAG, 20/16/4. This is my 3rd hand at the table so I don't know what he knows about me but my stats are about the same as his if he datamines. UTG is a big fish so CO may be raising with a weakish hand to isolate.

Any thoughts on my line postflop?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $183
UTG+1: $227.80
CO: $196.20
Hero: $200
SB: $367.60
BB: $116.35

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $9</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $32</font>, 3 folds, CO calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($69, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($69, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">CO bets $50</font>, Hero calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($169, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">CO bets $80</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $329

Re: 200NL JJ overpair
 

I think I would have bet the flop and re-evaluated once the T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] hit on the turn, depending on what Villain does.

Re: 200NL JJ overpair
 

With your stats, you don't do a lot of checking and calling. You must have felt weak after the flop. When I check with a vulnerable hand, I'm ready to give up. You continued and called off most of your stack to a good player that was telling you he had the best hand.

Re: 200NL JJ overpair
 

Bet the flop yo

Re: 200NL JJ overpair
 

villian could easily have a medium pocket pair (88,77) and be betting based on your weakness on flop, putting you on two overs and charging you to draw. i would have liked to see a bet on the flop.

-eric

Re: 200NL JJ overpair
 

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Bet the flop yo

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Re: 200NL JJ overpair
 

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villian could easily have a medium pocket pair (88,77) and be betting based on your weakness on flop, putting you on two overs and charging you to draw. i would have liked to see a bet on the flop.

-eric

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You realise that I want 88 and 77 to bet the turn and river, right?

Re: 200NL JJ overpair
 

Strongly think a flop bet is in order. CO could have a very wide variety of hands, but some kind of overcard/draw combo is quite possible...probably most likely. What's your plan if a K turns and CO bets? On the flop, I'm using my position, sensing his weakness, and tossing out a good sized bet to take this sucker down now. If called on the flop, I play it very carefully on future streets.

Now, playing as you did, I don't mind the turn and river play. It's possible, but not likely, that he checked a T on the flop. Maybe he picked up a 2nd draw with a hand like KQc on the turn.

So...bet the flop. But after you decide to check the flop, fine.

Re: 200NL JJ overpair
 

I like the flop check if your overpair is bigger. As it is with JJ, I like flop bet to take it down now or make him draw incorrectly to his six outs and possible backdoor flush draw.

AA/KK here, you dont worry so much about AK/AQ and so you can let him maybe fire one more time with his 77/88 or whatever pair if he thinks you're slowing down with whiffed slick.

Re: 200NL JJ overpair
 

playing that passively after reraising seems so bad, flop bet 100%, you dont really mind him folding rather that sucking out by hitting trips/set/flush/straight draw he could have, shorthanded he could easily have AT or KT, T9, you're lucky none of the draws got there but if 8s shows up you are in a terrible spot