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pleyya 08-27-2006 08:44 AM

200 NL big draw vs big lag
 
Im still quite new to No-limit and wasnt sure about this one.
Preflop call might have been a little light..Raiser is about 48/16/3 so quite aggro and he calls to much. UTG is LP about 50/2.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 ($174)
MP3 ($228.65)
CO ($199.10)
Hero ($206.85)
SB ($214.84)
BB ($312.70)
UTG ($371.02)
UTG+1 ($198)
UTG+2 ($282)
MP1 ($394.85)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $6.

Flop: ($27) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $25</font>, ]Hero.......

He was quite aggro so i thought he had a wide range however i didnt expect him to fold TPTK or overpair to a push. Even with low fold equity i should push this right? Although i am a slight underdog to an overpair.

Womble 08-27-2006 08:55 AM

Re: 200 NL big draw vs big lag
 
This isnt a big draw and if you think there is low FE then dont push.

I wouldnt push if there was FE though - gonna need alot to make it +EEV

recipro 08-27-2006 09:12 AM

Re: 200 NL big draw vs big lag
 
It seems like a pretty decent draw to me, he's 48% to beat AJ (without A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]). However, if MP1 is calling anyway, and will pay you off if you hit, no reason not to wait and see if you hit before putting it all in.

Tiki 08-27-2006 09:18 AM

Re: 200 NL big draw vs big lag
 
If you assume that all your draws are to the nuts, pushing would be roughly break-even even without fold equity.
Is your fold equity enough to compensate for all the times you don't draw to the nuts/get outdrawn?
A tough one.
Personally, I wouldn't stick my neck out here. Small edge, huge variance.Calling can't be wrong.

Proofrock 08-27-2006 09:31 AM

Re: 200 NL big draw vs big lag
 
i don't really like a push here. your stack size is awkward and a push looks a lot like a flush draw semibluff (seriously: what other hands push $200 into a $50 pot on *that* flop? looks pretty fishy to me). if you want to play your draw aggressively, i'd probably raise the flop to $75 and push the turn.


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