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krishan 08-07-2006 02:00 AM

Virgin experience... (130 deep)
 
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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP ($446.80)
Hero ($799.50)
Button ($1117.86)
SB ($203.31)
BB ($360.02)
UTG ($783.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $24</font>, Button calls $24, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($57) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $39</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $78</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $264</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $450</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $771

Villain is solid. I took a pot off him earlier with a semibluff all in on the turn (I didn't show). I don't know if that's relevant. I'm including it for thoroughness. Thanks,

Krishan

swolfe 08-07-2006 02:03 AM

Re: Virgin experience... (130 deep)
 
yuck

i'd either call and check-raise the turn, or stop-n-go. he has JJ.

krishan 08-07-2006 02:05 AM

Re: Virgin experience... (130 deep)
 
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yuck

i'd either call and check-raise the turn, or stop-n-go. he has JJ.

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Lines don't really matter at this point. I'm either in or I'm out. He is pot committed at this point.

Krishan

Subfallen 08-07-2006 02:06 AM

Re: Virgin experience... (130 deep)
 
QQ+,98s,JTs,etc.?

I don't know how much you think your opponents are paying attention or whatever, but I guess this means u fold everything but {88,99} to a min-4-bet on this board?

Seems excessive.

swolfe 08-07-2006 02:09 AM

Re: Virgin experience... (130 deep)
 
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Lines don't really matter at this point. I'm either in or I'm out. He is pot committed at this point.

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Hero bets $39, Button raises to $78

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i'm talking about here. your flop 3-bet is pretty bad IMO. almost worse than the fold.

krishan 08-07-2006 02:10 AM

Re: Virgin experience... (130 deep)
 
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QQ+,98s,JTs,etc.?

I don't know how much you think your opponents are paying attention or whatever, but I guess this means u fold everything but {88,99} to a min-4-bet on this board?

Seems excessive.

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The fold may be incorrect. I'm definitely posting for advice here.

That said, my 3-bet is pretty substantial. I have 300 of my 800 dollar stack in the middle at this point. What would you think I have at this point? This isn't a random donk (I don't think). The read is a solid TAG. I don't think a solid TAG ever gets out of line in a spot where I'm saying I'm super committed.

Krishan

krishan 08-07-2006 02:11 AM

Re: Virgin experience... (130 deep)
 
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Lines don't really matter at this point. I'm either in or I'm out. He is pot committed at this point.

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Hero bets $39, Button raises to $78

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i'm talking about here. your flop 3-bet is pretty bad IMO. almost worse than the fold.

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Ahh, your saying I'm letting worse hands off too easy?

Krishan

philipsaurus 08-07-2006 02:54 AM

Re: Virgin experience... (130 deep)
 
ive never folded sets on dry boards like these, but given the way you got there, i think a fold is ok.

i just would have never gotten to that point. flop 3bet is bad. he has a (weak) made hand alot. much more often than when he has a monster.

Chris Daddy Cool 08-07-2006 02:59 AM

Re: Virgin experience... (130 deep)
 
wow this fold is awful.

2+2 wannabe 08-07-2006 03:16 AM

Re: Virgin experience... (130 deep)
 
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yuck

i call and check-raise the turn, he has AA/KK.

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