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Gobgogbog 01-22-2006 05:02 PM

Two hands, same villain, nut no pair
 
Villain is 52/8.13/1.44 over 123 hands, mostly from $1/2

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, Hero checks.

River: (5.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (4 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 6 BB

hemstock 01-22-2006 05:13 PM

Re: Two hands, same villain, nut no pair
 
Fold the river in hand #1. The only draw he could possibly bet on the flop was the flush draw that got there on the turn. You don't beat anything on the river.

Hand #2. Why do you call the flop?

Leader 01-22-2006 05:22 PM

Re: Two hands, same villain, nut no pair
 
bet the turn in hand 1. fold the flop in hand 2.

adsman 01-22-2006 05:28 PM

Re: Two hands, same villain, nut no pair
 
You have so many outs on the turn in hand 1. I bet the turn and take the free showdown.

hand 2 I can maybe at a pinch see you calling the flop but the river call makes me cringe.

Gobgogbog 01-22-2006 05:28 PM

Re: Two hands, same villain, nut no pair
 
[ QUOTE ]
Fold the river in hand #1. The only draw he could possibly bet on the flop was the flush draw that got there on the turn. You don't beat anything on the river.

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Well the whole reason I didn't bet the turn was to induce a bluff from a missed worse Ace, 1.4 seems pretty aggressive for someone who sees 50% of flops, no?

[ QUOTE ]
Hand #2. Why do you call the flop?

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Mostly I just hate bet/folding the flop heads-up because it's pretty exploitable if people notice you doing it. Not many people complete with A-x, so the only hands that make a lot of sense to me for him are J9 or K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]-x, not sure if the x needs to connect with the board. I have position on him, so if a non-spade hits I can figure out which it is on the turn for free.


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