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KRANTZ 08-02-2006 07:56 PM

Best amount to 4-bet?
 
10/20 NL, Effective stacks 2000.

You're playing something like 23/16, doing a lot of position raising and being generally aggro. Villain is a good player, 25/17 or so and loves to repop you preflop. You guys have a history of raising each other light, in and out of position.

Folds to you in the SB, and you open raise to $70 with AJs, Villain repops you to $235 knowing you have a wide range. Sometimes you'll call here, sometimes you 4bet. This time you decide to 4bet.

Question 1) If we've decided to 4bet, what's the best amount?

If you make it $1000 and he pushes, you're getting 3:1, which would mean you're correct to call even if his range is AA-KK and AK (28% equity). You estimate his 5 betting range is AA-TT, AQ, AK. Against that range, you've got 30% equity.

Question 2) Knowing what we do, what's the highest EV play after he 3bets you? Meaning, what's the optimal amount to 4-bet to?

klonpucko 08-02-2006 08:12 PM

Re: Best amount to 4-bet?
 
make it ONE MILLION DOLLARS

krammatrix 08-02-2006 08:13 PM

Re: Best amount to 4-bet?
 
you should make it more like 650 or 7 so you can fold. When you make it 1k, it makes it hard to fold, and you really don
t want to be in that spot.

McIntireUVA 08-02-2006 08:14 PM

Re: Best amount to 4-bet?
 
I like somewhere between 650 and 725.

Curious what other people think

Dan BRIGHT 08-02-2006 08:16 PM

Re: Best amount to 4-bet?
 
777

Parlay Slow 08-02-2006 08:17 PM

Re: Best amount to 4-bet?
 
[ QUOTE ]
make it ONE MILLION DOLLARS

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klonpucko 08-02-2006 08:18 PM

Re: Best amount to 4-bet?
 
HA YOU CANT MAKE IT $7 U STUPID DONK

KRANTZ 08-02-2006 08:28 PM

Re: Best amount to 4-bet?
 
What I'm trying to get at - does one amount leave you room to fold? Does 600, or 750, or 1k, or pushing - which one folds out hands he might decide to push himself with?

klonpucko 08-02-2006 08:30 PM

Re: Best amount to 4-bet?
 
hmm good point.

yvesaint 08-02-2006 08:49 PM

Re: Best amount to 4-bet?
 
klonplucko,

i agree w/everything you have said in this thread.


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