4/180, What to do with 77 and a Jack on the board.
 

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t5430)
UTG+1 (t1414)
MP1 (t3695)
MP2 (t3063)
CO (t2350)
Button (t1165)
Hero (t1730)
BB (t2563)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG raises to t400</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, Hero calls t350, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Flop: (t900) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets t500</font>,

Ok This guy is pretty donkish, Preflop the bet size = hand size. To me the 500 bet just screams CBet with upaired cards but i'd like to know what everyone else thinks he might have and if i should push or fold.

Re: 4/180, What to do with 77 and a Jack on the board.
 

If you're going to call here preflop for almost 1/4 of your stack, you need to have a plan postflop. I'd probably just fold preflop (too weak tight?) given that I don't have anywhere close to the implied odds I need to hit my set. You're not short-stacked enough yet to really need to push, and calling off 1/4 of your stack when you're 8 to 1 against hitting a set isn't great, unless you want to run a stop n go on a ragged flop (like this one).

Also, if your read is that he's raising size = his hand size, aren't you worried about his 4x bb raise from utg?

Re: 4/180, What to do with 77 and a Jack on the board.
 

Fold PF or push this flop.

Either/or.

Re: 4/180, What to do with 77 and a Jack on the board.
 

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Also, if your read is that he's raising size = his hand size, aren't you worried about his 4x bb raise from utg?

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Not really it's a 4/180 Postion means so litte to 90 percent of the field that it's basicly just a 4x raise really doesn't mean much to me that it's UTG unless they've shown restraint in regards to postion to which of course he had not.

Re: 4/180, What to do with 77 and a Jack on the board.
 

My point was more that if you're going by the "raise size = hand size" theory, you're probably behind most of his range. He sounds like the typical 4/180 donk who min-raises with QTo and makes a more solid raise with KK. You're facing a more solid raise, so calling off 25% of your chips without a solid read that he's going to fold to your push isn't the best plan.

You're almost certainly behind his overall range here, and against people like this, you have very little folding equity. I'd wait for a better spot.

Re: 4/180, What to do with 77 and a Jack on the board.
 

Fold or push. I would lean to folding with your M and pushing if your M was significantly lower.

Re: 4/180, What to do with 77 and a Jack on the board.
 

Am I the only person who reads this as overwheling likely to be AK or AQ?

EDIT: FWIW the break starts in 2 mins, if that changes anything.

Re: 4/180, What to do with 77 and a Jack on the board.
 

push the flop