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Lunkan 07-30-2006 11:30 PM

KQ flopping K with A on board
 
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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, BB folds.

Turn: (7.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls.

River: (10.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB

I guess betting the flop into 5 players with second pair and a backdoor flush is wrong?

On turn I planned to fold to a raise and on the river to call if it was one bet back to me.

tyler_cracker 07-30-2006 11:35 PM

Re: KQ flopping K with A on board
 
where are your reads??

check flop and re-evaluate.

as played, turn bet is good.

river check sucks. wtf happened there?

Pressure 07-30-2006 11:49 PM

Re: KQ flopping K with A on board
 
I bet all streets and fold to any resistance on turn/river.

Lunkan 07-31-2006 09:12 AM

Re: KQ flopping K with A on board
 
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where are your reads??

check flop and re-evaluate.

as played, turn bet is good.

river check sucks. wtf happened there?

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No reads this time, I'm afraid ... I was tired and playing at a friend's place without PT.

River I thought that I could have been slowplayed, so if I checked I could either catch a bluff or fold if the action went bet-raise. But I suppose I should bet and fold to a raise?

HouseCalls 07-31-2006 09:27 AM

Re: KQ flopping K with A on board
 
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I bet all streets and fold to any resistance on turn/river.

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DrModern 07-31-2006 11:48 AM

Re: KQ flopping K with A on board
 
What are you hoping to accomplish by betting out on this flop? I'd check here and see what happens. If it's bet, I'd take one off and reevaluate. It's unlikely that you're ahead here, and you don't have all that many outs. You'd like to get players out with your hand, not encourage them to come along.

davelin 07-31-2006 12:41 PM

Re: KQ flopping K with A on board
 
How does this...

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What are you hoping to accomplish by betting out on this flop? I'd check here and see what happens. If it's bet, I'd take one off and reevaluate.

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jive in heaven's name with this?

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You'd like to get players out with your hand, not encourage them to come along.

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DrModern 07-31-2006 01:42 PM

Re: KQ flopping K with A on board
 
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How does this...

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What are you hoping to accomplish by betting out on this flop? I'd check here and see what happens. If it's bet, I'd take one off and reevaluate.

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jive in heaven's name with this?

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You'd like to get players out with your hand, not encourage them to come along.

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Hmmm...yeah, that was sort of ill thought out...

You aren't expecting to win this hand with a pair of kings--betting out is likely to get callers. You'd prefer to check-raise a bet from late position with this beast. I suppose the contradiction is that I said I'd just take one off. I revise my position: I go for a check-raise with this thing.

Swax 07-31-2006 03:50 PM

Re: KQ flopping K with A on board
 
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I revise my position: I go for a check-raise with this thing.

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Really? With three cold callers preflop, I'd be really hard-pressed to believe that there isn't at least one if not two aces out there, and at this level, nobody's gonna fold one of them. I want to see the turn card for one bet, and for zero if possible. I don't think a c/r is going to accomplish what you're trying to accomplish at all.

shadow. 07-31-2006 03:55 PM

Re: KQ flopping K with A on board
 
zomg @ all the comments in this thread.

well most of them anyway.


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