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Gravy 07-20-2006 05:02 PM

river fold
 
Villain seems decent.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

Caddy_4_Life 07-20-2006 05:04 PM

Re: river fold
 
hey I guess I'm not the only one that losses all the time with broadway straights!

-Caddy

Caddy_4_Life 07-20-2006 05:07 PM

Re: river fold
 
oh ya and good fold. Villain isn't going to show Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Qx 1 in 10 times because:
1) You have a Queen.
2) He didn't slow down with that turn card.

-Caddy

Siingo 07-20-2006 05:08 PM

Re: river fold
 
Tuff luck... Well I guess there is not any hands that you can beat at the river that he can have (QQ but not often enough). Ofcourse he can also have Q10 (not likley since he 3bet) but not often enough for you to call, I think. Good fold!

Nick C 07-21-2006 01:34 AM

Re: river fold
 
I guess the QdQx hand that's been mentioned is one thing to hope for, as is KxQd, but those cards that fell on the turn and river certainly do suck. And Villain's OOP aggressiveness on this flop is not exactly encouraging once the board turns sour on you.

Scary_Tiger 07-21-2006 02:08 AM

Re: river fold
 
I think a flop cap is very valuable here. You're almost never losing and this board is EVIL. A turn lead by villain is usually very informative.

Broom 07-21-2006 02:15 AM

Re: river fold
 
[ QUOTE ]
I think a flop cap is very valuable here. You're almost never losing and this board is EVIL. A turn lead by villain is usually very informative.

[/ QUOTE ]

Either that, or call the 3bet and raise a blank turn when our equity shoots up.

waffle 07-21-2006 05:04 AM

Re: river fold
 
1. I like the flop call,

2. Those are the sickest turn and river cards I've seen,

3. The river is probably a fold,

4. I'm not that good,

5. That's why I'm still on the SS board.

Gravy 07-21-2006 08:47 AM

Re: river fold
 
[ QUOTE ]
I think a flop cap is very valuable here. You're almost never losing and this board is EVIL. A turn lead by villain is usually very informative.


[/ QUOTE ]

I didn't need the extra bet to get the info I needed from Villain. His PF 3-bet and flop bet/3-bet put him squarely on AK/AJ/KJ/AA/KK/JJ, a diamond, or maybe Ax. I was planning on raising any non-diamond turn card that didn't pair the board.

jstill 07-21-2006 10:55 AM

Re: river fold
 
raise the turn and the hand plays easier i think

if he just calls ur turn raise then donks the river what do you guys do pot is a bit bigger now but i doubt he shows less than a A or J very often after the action to justify a call.

fine fold its either a pissed off flush leading again or boat neither of which you beat not Qd often enuff still raise turn


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