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Caddy_4_Life 07-05-2006 02:48 PM

Important turn decision
 
This is Villain's first hand at the table. Our only read is he could play like a donkey since he posted out of the blinds.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>

Standard so far?
What's your line if he 3-bets?

-Caddy

jba 07-05-2006 02:49 PM

Re: Important turn decision
 
looks fine.

"What's your line if he 3-bets?"

can't imagine anything but a call down, can you?

Rapidtransit 07-05-2006 02:50 PM

Re: Important turn decision
 
looks pretty standard to me, given he posted out of the blinds his range could be anything. I think i call bet c/c if ui, and expect some donk hand like kq off 1/2 the time. but what do I know

NSchandler 07-05-2006 02:53 PM

Re: Important turn decision
 
I don't know how you could play anything differently up to this point.

I/d call down a 3-bet unless a J comes, don't know what else you could do.

Caddy_4_Life 07-05-2006 03:07 PM

Re: Important turn decision
 
Thanks for the responses guys. I'm still sane.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (10.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
CO has Ad Qs (two pair, aces and queens).
Hero has Ac Kc (one pair, aces).
Outcome: CO wins 10.75 BB. </font>

Without being results oriented here I may have missed a river value bet/fold. Yes?

-Caddy

duckman 07-05-2006 03:13 PM

Re: Important turn decision
 
[ QUOTE ]
looks fine.

"What's your line if he 3-bets?"

can't imagine anything but a call down, can you?

[/ QUOTE ]

NSchandler 07-05-2006 03:13 PM

Re: Important turn decision
 
When villain checks that river, it looks like he 3-bet turn with something like pair + flush draw, so I'd consider a b/f.

allaboutmyfetti 07-05-2006 03:13 PM

Re: Important turn decision
 
I woudl check behind on the river. Without reading the results, it looks he has a pretty strong hand on the turn and got scared with the 3rd flush card or something. Tough on an unknown opponent since there's a chance he could just be a complete idiot.

jba 07-05-2006 03:14 PM

Re: Important turn decision
 
"it looks like he 3-bet turn with something like pair + flush draw, so I'd consider a b/f"

hmmmmm... rethink that maybe?

NSchandler 07-05-2006 03:24 PM

Re: Important turn decision
 
[ QUOTE ]
"it looks like he 3-bet turn with something like pair + flush draw, so I'd consider a b/f"

hmmmmm... rethink that maybe?

[/ QUOTE ]

Ok, I'm too obtuse to get what you're saying. You're saying the river was a diamond so the flush draw came in? I was thinking maybe something like K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], where villain has flush draw, gutshot, plus a pair.

Maybe this is way too thin of a value-bet, but I don't value-bet enough so I'm looking for spots to put in another bet on the river.


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