Getting raise on the flop w/ Big draw OOP
 

Vilain is a unknowed player, but seems pretty loose and trigger happy pre-flop.

After the flop raise, I was debating to either 3-bet push turn or call c/r turn AI. What line do you think is best here?

If I 3-bet push turn. I'd make it 30$ total on the flop. I know it not that big a raise but it give me a foul PSB to fire on the turn. Also, I often play set this way on draw heavy board, but I'm not sure he is aware of that.

For the call c/r turn, I tought that could work well unless he bet the full pot on turn, cause my c/r would'nt be that big to call. I chk, he bet 30 in a 32.5$pot, I c/r AI for about 50$ and the pot would now be 92.5$, laying him 2:1.

I decided to go with my 1st line, 3-bet push turn. thoughts?

Result are irrelevent. Just want you guys opinion's on the way I played it and/or alternative way to play it.




PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($46.45)
Button ($116.80)
SB ($84.90)
Hero ($98.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif.
<font color="black">1 fold</font>, <font color="red">Button raises to $4</font>, <font color="black">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($8.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif <font color="green">(2 players)</font>
<font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="red">Button raises to $12</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $30</font>, Button calls $18.

Turn: ($68.50) Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif <font color="green">(2 players)</font>
<font color="red">Hero bets $64.75 (All-In)</font>



Thanks

-Happy [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Re: Getting raise on the flop w/ Big draw OOP
 

Pot the flop and 3-bet shove. Very standard.

Re: Getting raise on the flop w/ Big draw OOP
 

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Pot the flop and 3-bet shove. Very standard.

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Don't you think the 3-bet AI is a little to big of an overbet? I'd be pushing 82.75$ in a 32.50$ pot...

Re: Getting raise on the flop w/ Big draw OOP
 

Cbloom is right as usual: B3BAI on the flop because you want to see both cards. When the turn comes it either blanks, making you an underdog to any king, makes your hand (which may kill your action, especially if it's in the form of a spade), or potentially leaves you drawing dead, as is the case here. Get the money in when you're likely to be ahead/even.

Re: Getting raise on the flop w/ Big draw OOP
 

OP, you're right if he was more of a nit the overbet would be bad because it risks too much when he might have a set, but against someone aggro don't really worry about the overbet. 3-betting small like you did leaves you in a very bad spot on the turn, you need to get this AI on the flop.

Re: Getting raise on the flop w/ Big draw OOP
 

Ok, so my best line would be to make it 9$ on flop and 3-bet push. I'll try that. I'm familiar with the move, just not used to do it in small pot with full stack.

Thanks.

Re: Getting raise on the flop w/ Big draw OOP
 

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Ok, so my best line would be to make it 9$ on flop and 3-bet push. I'll try that. I'm familiar with the move, just not used to do it in small pot with full stack.


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It's about the situation. Don't just always do that. Vs. an Aggro villain who can raise light &amp; make a fold, that's the best line. vs. other villains you should just check-call the flop and try to hit your draw cheaply.